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Medwasy PCN
swifters1
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[FONT="]Hi, I received a pcn from Medway council for parking in a disabled bay. I obviously did not know it was a disabled car park and have launched an appeal under the grounds that they are in breach of the traffic signs regulations 1984:
"Bays should be marked with yellow lines and a yellow wheelchair symbol within the space. Access areas between parking bays should be hatched in yellow (Figure 4). To aid compliance, confirmatory signs should be displayed on adjacent walls or on posts erected specifically for the purpose"
The one and only sign was not adjacent, had remnants of sticker adhesive obscuring keywords and some letters were missing.
Medway response:
" I can confirm that upon further investigation into your appeal it has been confirmed by the Car Parks Manager that bay markings are not required in this car park as the entire car park is solely for the use of disabled badge holders only"
Is it worth taking to appeal? I am not concerned regards the monetary cost but am concerned as to the ethics of their practices. They have the front to imply I parked there on purpose and at the disregard of disabled drivers. If they were truly interested in protecting disabled peoples interests they would do far more to make the signage and markings clear.
They also seem reluctant to let me know if the parking area in question has a local traffic order. Two requests, waiting to hear back on the third. Any advise much appreciated. Thanks[/FONT]
"Bays should be marked with yellow lines and a yellow wheelchair symbol within the space. Access areas between parking bays should be hatched in yellow (Figure 4). To aid compliance, confirmatory signs should be displayed on adjacent walls or on posts erected specifically for the purpose"
The one and only sign was not adjacent, had remnants of sticker adhesive obscuring keywords and some letters were missing.
Medway response:
" I can confirm that upon further investigation into your appeal it has been confirmed by the Car Parks Manager that bay markings are not required in this car park as the entire car park is solely for the use of disabled badge holders only"
Is it worth taking to appeal? I am not concerned regards the monetary cost but am concerned as to the ethics of their practices. They have the front to imply I parked there on purpose and at the disregard of disabled drivers. If they were truly interested in protecting disabled peoples interests they would do far more to make the signage and markings clear.
They also seem reluctant to let me know if the parking area in question has a local traffic order. Two requests, waiting to hear back on the third. Any advise much appreciated. Thanks[/FONT]
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They must give you the traffic order of the area by law, go to their office and demand it, don't take no for answer, also you should post this on a new thread on pepipoo.com, they will need a scan of your ticket both sides, and pictures of signs and bays in the car park, upload them all to tinypic and post the links there, don't forget to remove personal info that can identify you.
Good luck!Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?0 -
Have just been sent a copy of the local traffic order. It is for the main car park and not the disabled car park which they themselves have stated as being seperate in their attempt to justify the obmition of the disabled sign markings on the floor. Gona fight this all the way if I have to.0
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It sound like they are stalling and don't have an order. Maybe they have a parking place order for the disabled one.I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.0
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Transpires they do have a lto. Is there anywhere I can upload it on this site? Perhaps tinypic as mentioned above will be best. Will look into that. What I can't understand it that it states in the [FONT="]traffic signs regulations 1984 [/FONT][FONT="]"Bays should be marked with yellow lines and a yellow wheelchair symbol within the space".
This was not the case in the car park in question.
How can they simply reply
[/FONT][FONT="]" I can confirm that upon further investigation into your appeal it has been confirmed by the Car Parks Manager that bay markings are not required in this car park as the entire car park is solely for the use of disabled badge holders only"
As if "the Car Parks Manager" is a law unto himself![/FONT]0 -
Transpires they do have a lto. Is there anywhere I can upload it on this site? Perhaps tinypic as mentioned above will be best. Will look into that. What I can't understand it that it states in the [FONT="]traffic signs regulations 1984 [/FONT][FONT="]"Bays should be marked with yellow lines and a yellow wheelchair symbol within the space".
This was not the case in the car park in question.
How can they simply reply
[/FONT][FONT="]" I can confirm that upon further investigation into your appeal it has been confirmed by the Car Parks Manager that bay markings are not required in this car park as the entire car park is solely for the use of disabled badge holders only"
As if "the Car Parks Manager" is a law unto himself![/FONT]
Sadly this is not a dedicated Council PCN fightback website, so uploading the Order here won't get the advice you need.
Pepipoo is the forum for you as they are a dedicated fightback forum for motorists:
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30
Read the FAQs and stickies, and a few threads to get the gist. Then register and post your pictures of the PCN front and back (all the small print but blank out car ID and PCN number). Also pics of the signage upon entering and when parking at that car park, plus the bays/lines/lack of lines, all pics would be useful, see the sticky threads on how to post pictures on there.
Pepipoo also has a way of uploading Traffic Orders, ask about that too on your thread.
Good luck.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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