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What counts as child poverty in the UK? Poll discussion

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  • Jacks_xxx
    Jacks_xxx Posts: 3,874 Forumite
    None are closed here, and so far all planning to be open tomorrow as well.
    Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. Einstein
  • Most of the schools around here are closed.

    It'd look well if the care homes, hospitals, fire brigade etc all said 'Sorry we have 2" of snow so we have to close guys". If you ask me they're a bunch of fairies all wanting a day off. I feel sorry for the parents (i.e. the nurses, fire fighters, care assistants) all rushing around like fruit loops trying to find alternative arrangements.
  • Jacks_xxx
    Jacks_xxx Posts: 3,874 Forumite
    No schools closed here again. Perhaps the weather is much more treacherous in other areas?
    Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. Einstein
  • I guess we have about 4"+ with more forecast..am guessing schools and colleges will be closed again tomorrow!
  • Depends on why there is a lack of food, clothing or shelter. Poverty is not the only reason, there are lots of others which could be disguised as 'poverty.'

    For instance:

    1) if mother spends the food/clothing money on fags and father spends the rent on booze, should that constitute poverty?

    2 if two identical families have exactly the same income, but one is in debt (for whatever reason) to such an extent that they can't afford food/clothing/rent, are both families in poverty?


    isn't the child (whom this poll focuses on) living in poverty either way?
  • jim-22
    jim-22 Posts: 107 Forumite
    Actually we haven't put our heating on yet today (we have several inches of snow). Sweaters are cheaper :)

    Edit (16.32) Now we have though :D


    In the south are you?
    Not bearing the brunt of this awful weather if 16.32 without heating.

    Modern life, too much to ask to at least be warm?
    Granted, many could afford it but being miserly choose not to spend, like you.

    We are one of the richest conglomerates of countries in the world supposedly!
  • jim-22
    jim-22 Posts: 107 Forumite
    All relative, why should such a developed country, with a world leading financial base in London, be so backward in providing for it's own?
  • jim-22
    jim-22 Posts: 107 Forumite
    Why should the living conditions be so dire for a great many in a supposed 'rich' country?

    Though, always be those warm & fine.
    Who begrudge affording that luxury to all.

    Why should the living conditions be so abundant, in all ways, for only a fraction of those who abide in this amalgamation of countries that constitute the UK?
  • isn't the child (whom this poll focuses on) living in poverty either way?

    No.

    Certainly in the first example the overriding issue affecting the child is abuse, not poverty.

    And your comment fails to address the 2nd example, which attempts to point out that absolute income is not necessarily a determining factor in deciding poverty - which the poll seems encourage people to think.
    Conjugating the verb 'to be":
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  • I have recently moved to Africa (Kenya)
    Here I see some of the richest people and some of the poorest

    I see kids starving, homeless, parentless etc
    This is real poverty

    Give any one of these kids the supposed uk poverty and they would think they are living like kings

    I grew up in supposed poverty in the uk
    But in reality we were poor by comparison

    None of the options I saw listed say poverty to me, simply poor by comparison
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