Boss from hell / poor colleague

Blue_Monkey

What options might the solicitor advise? (more money for the leaver payment? lodge formal complaint against B?)

I think the damage has been done an C would be happy to just take the money and run now. Saying that, at 57 she's a way off retirement so I think she's a bit daunted by the lack of job prospects.. Though I've told her I'll come and work from her if she sets up "C's Consulting"

richardvc

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Well text/email her and make damn sure she sees a solicitor before signing anything!

Good advice - her 'payoff' I would imagine will be a hell of a lot less than she is entitled to if they are that forthcoming with an offer.

She needs good sound employment law advice and must not, repeat must not, do anything or sign anything without consulting those in the know.

This could even be constructive dismissal / bullying etc etc IMHO but in reality I know nothing about that kind of thing.

Please wish your friend well and tell her to keep her pecker up as it sounds like all proper channels of discipline / employment protocols have been ignored !!

Good luck.
Ps By the way, she's lucky to have a friend like you Blue Monkey so take a pat on the back !!

Sambucus_Nigra

Blue_Monkey wrote: »

What options might the solicitor advise? (more money for the leaver payment? lodge formal complaint against B?)

I think the damage has been done an C would be happy to just take the money and run now. Saying that, at 57 she's a way off retirement so I think she's a bit daunted by the lack of job prospects.. Though I've told her I'll come and work from her if she sets up "C's Consulting"

It doesn't matter about damage done!

Don't let her let them walk all over her! If they let her sign without a solicitor then they are again breaking the law.....

If you want her to have enough cash to start up on her own, then do this one thing for her and let the fallout back at the company take it's course.

It's not the end of the world, and part of the compromise would be a good reference, a good payoff and an agreement that the employment came to a natural end [which means never talking about the situation to a potential new employer].

I agree you are a good friend, but it's now she needs the advice to see a professional, and a good one! I'm not sure whether there is a cap on the amount that the company will fund a solicitor but we have a few on here who will hopefully advise on that side of it later.

Blue_Monkey

richardvc wrote: »

Good advice - her 'payoff' I would imagine will be a hell of a lot less than she is entitled to if they are that forthcoming with an offer.

She needs good sound employment law advice and must not, repeat must not, do anything or sign anything without consulting those in the know.

This could even be constructive dismissal / bullying etc etc IMHO but in reality I know nothing about that kind of thing.

Please wish your friend well and tell her to keep her pecker up as it sounds like all proper channels of discipline / employment protocols have been ignored !!

Good luck.
Ps By the way, she's lucky to have a friend like you Blue Monkey so take a pat on the back !!

She's clever enough to know that she should take it to her solicitor first, no doubt about that. Let's hope that'll get her some more ££.

Thanks for the kind words. I feel a bit powerless to be honest. Boss is a bully (and a very sad and complicated character); this will be her 3rd "managed exit" in as many years. We're all a bit scared of her, but she appears to have a foot in the door with the powers that be, and whilst it may sound selfish, I'm not sure I want to jeopardise my own role by speaking up :embarasse As you can see, this boss is poor under pressure and has a venomous backlash...

Blue_Monkey

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

It's not the end of the world, and part of the compromise would be a good reference, a good payoff and an agreement that the employment came to a natural end [which means never talking about the situation to a potential new employer]. .

I know, and I think she is beginning to see it this way too...

I'm not the only one with crossed fingers hoping the boss will get her comeuppance (sp??)

richardvc

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

It doesn't matter about damage done!

Don't let her let them walk all over her! If they let her sign without a solicitor then they are again breaking the law.....

If you want her to have enough cash to start up on her own, then do this one thing for her and let the fallout back at the company take it's course.

It's not the end of the world, and part of the compromise would be a good reference, a good payoff and an agreement that the employment came to a natural end [which means never talking about the situation to a potential new employer].

I agree you are a good friend, but it's now she needs the advice to see a professional, and a good one! I'm not sure whether there is a cap on the amount that the company will fund a solicitor but we have a few on here who will hopefully advise on that side of it later.

Yet again the collective strengths of MSE come to the fore.

Keep us advised Blue Monkey as I would be interested in the outcome to this - I have a real hate to see decent people bullied due to someone else's shortcomings.

MrRedundant

2 Sides to every colleague.
I wonder if the boss is going on about his number 2 and her pals who all think their better than they are.

Your post is a rant sadly lacking the details. Suppliers always promise things they can't deliver and it doesnt avoid the fact that people of a certain level should have certain competencies.

Sambucus_Nigra

MrRedundant wrote: »

2 Sides to every colleague.
I wonder if the boss is going on about his number 2 and her pals who all think their better than they are.

Your post is a rant sadly lacking the details. Suppliers always promise things they can't deliver and it doesnt avoid the fact that people of a certain level should have certain competencies.

First off - he is a she.....the details are there, you've just got to read them

MrRedundant

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

First off - he is a she.....the details are there, you've just got to read them

No a version of events is. A very one sided one. None of which in my view proves the poor management or the excellent colleague.

Its very possible others think the excellent colleague is useless and the manager is excellent based on what has been posted.

I personally would find someone who couldnt use a spreadsheet regardless of why they needed it a pretty poor member of staff especially in a role which would appear to provide producing stats for analysis.

bristol_pilot

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Well text/email her and make damn sure she sees a solicitor before signing anything!

Very poor advice to the OP, IMO. The OP should keep her head down and keep out of it. Or she might catch some of the flak. Work colleagues are not friends.