CSA advice on Absent Parent who has stopped paying

swilliam

My friend started to recieve CSA payments off the absent father from Oct 2009, which came to an abrupt halt last month. Her child is now 14 ( The father left the scene prior to birth )

The CSA have admitted they never carried out a reassessment of the claim since 1998 when the money was owed to the Sec of State ( RP was on state benefits during that period ).


The Father is a Post Grad, so there is a more positive chance he is earning more than the minimal wage. He has been paying around £9 a week since 1998 ( so she suspects he is avoiding any investigations into his earnings and living standards )

The CSA debt dept. are now trying to contact the Father to apply their usual procedures. In the meantime should the RP apply to have a reassessment of the claim and if so, should it be in writing.


What is the usual procedure to ask the CSA to apply their rules and make sure a record is kept of the requests.

Any advice on CSA procedures would be helpful.

gratefulforhelp_2

She needs to write/email them asking what is being done at present and keep a record of all communication. She can request her data protection file to find out what has been done in the past.

DUTR

swilliam wrote: »

My friend started to recieve CSA payments off the absent father from Oct 2009, which came to an abrupt halt last month. Her child is now 14 ( The father left the scene prior to birth )

The CSA have admitted they never carried out a reassessment of the claim since 1998 when the money was owed to the Sec of State ( RP was on state benefits during that period ).


The Father is a Post Grad, so there is a more positive chance he is earning more than the minimal wage. He has been paying around £9 a week since 1998 ( so she suspects he is avoiding any investigations into his earnings and living standards )

The CSA debt dept. are now trying to contact the Father to apply their usual procedures. In the meantime should the RP apply to have a reassessment of the claim and if so, should it be in writing.


What is the usual procedure to ask the CSA to apply their rules and make sure a record is kept of the requests.

Any advice on CSA procedures would be helpful.

Being a post grad does not guarantee a job especially during a recession, I suppose they will have to do their checks to see if he is able to contribute and if so, then will levy depending upon ability to contribute. Re-assesments are usually done on the request of either the PWC or NRP. Father leaving the scene before the birth is neither here nor there as there is no cast iron reason why one partner should remain with another. Good luck for your friend.

swilliam

gratefulforhelp wrote: »

She needs to write/email them asking what is being done at present and keep a record of all communication. She can request her data protection file to find out what has been done in the past.

She had a telephone conversation with the CSA yesterday and they proposed to email their debt dept to start the ball rolling with regards a reassessment .

The SAR's has been requested ( I'm an ex CSA participant, pre NACSA days, but have been out of the loop for most of the basic advice ).

DUTR wrote: »

Being a post grad does not guarantee a job especially during a recession..

I said there was a more positive chance of him earning more then the minimum wage. His short lived contribution was based on an income of around £80 per week. That was 8 year post grad !

DUTR wrote: »

Father leaving the scene before the birth is neither here nor there .

Its a moral issue and was mentioned to bring some backgound into the unfolding events.

DUTR

swilliam wrote: »

She had a telephone conversation with the CSA yesterday and they proposed to email their debt dept to start the ball rolling with regards a reassessment .

The SAR's has been requested ( I'm an ex CSA participant, pre NACSA days, but have been out of the loop for most of the basic advice ).




I said there was a more positive chance of him earning more then the minimum wage. His short lived contribution was based on an income of around £80 per week. That was 8 year post grad !






Its a moral issue and was mentioned to bring some backgound into the unfolding events.

In 8yrs things can change, I know folk who are post grads and unemployed, or have low paid jobs
It maybe a moral issue, but if a relationship breaks down it breaks down, baby on the way or present is no reason for people stay in a loveless set up , would that be a good example for the child?
But in any case the external circumstances does not change the fact, the PWC will have to contact the CSA to follow up the case.

JulietAmber_2

Just to add a comment and I know it's not reallyrelevant - but I have a BA Hons in Early Childhood Studies and I am on minimum wage! I also volunteer on a Friday and have lots of friends who volunteer in the caring profession.
Good luck with the debt department - if my experience is anything to go by you should see some results in about 10 years.....

swilliam

JulietAmber wrote: »

if my experience is anything to go by you should see some results in about 10 years.....

It appears the CSA haven't changed much since the early 90's then. lol !

DUTR wrote: »

It maybe a moral issue, but if a relationship breaks down it breaks down, baby on the way or present is no reason for people stay in a loveless set up , would that be a good example for the child?
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Who said anything about staying in a loveless set up. I'm on about taking responsibility for your children and not running and hiding under a bush.

DUTR wrote: »

would that be a good example for the child?
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Exactly my point. You set an example by facing your responsibility's

DUTR

swilliam wrote: »

It appears the CSA haven't changed much since the early 90's then. lol !



Who said anything about staying in a loveless set up. I'm on about taking responsibility for your children and not running and hiding under a bush.



Exactly my point. You set an example by facing your responsibility's

I'm sure if they were in love they would not have gone their seprate ways.
It's not about hiding under a bush, I pay I go
As your friend knows there is more to raising a child than managing to get somebody to magic money onto the table, she will still have to chase the csa to urge a possible assesment and contribution, but the rest of moral nobody can force the absentee to do, that is up to him. Your friend chose to have the child and must have considered the pro's and cons to issue, however the longer she leaves it the longer the day of success, so she must get onto the csa at the earliest possible time.

gratefulforhelp_2

dutr this is off topic a bit, but should someone who feels "out of love" with their spouse just leave? Marriage, and relationships as married are a long hard slog, with ups and downs, and it is not a good example to set to children to do a flit the minute it gets a bit difficult.

Not that I am suggesting this is what you have done, but it does seem to be what you advocate?

DUTR

gratefulforhelp wrote: »

dutr this is off topic a bit, but should someone who feels "out of love" with their spouse just leave? Marriage, and relationships as married are a long hard slog, with ups and downs, and it is not a good example to set to children to do a flit the minute it gets a bit difficult.

Not that I am suggesting this is what you have done, but it does seem to be what you advocate?

No I agree, in the original post the OP was suggesting that the NRP was all bad because he had vanished off the scene before the birth, as he is not here to defend himself, we do not know why he went or why he has not come back , we don't know anything about the PWC in the case, it was added extra information which was just not required. whether the nrp is a post grad , the payments may have stopped as he may have been made redundant. Since in any instance and whether she dumped him, he dumped her, the PWC will still have to contact the CSA and request they look into things further .:o

swilliam

DUTR wrote: »

No I agree, in the original post the OP was suggesting that the NRP was all bad because he had vanished off the scene before the birth, as he is not here to defend himself, we do not know why he went or why he has not come back , we don't know anything about the PWC in the case, it was added extra information which was just not required. whether the nrp is a post grad , the payments may have stopped as he may have been made redundant. Since in any instance and whether she dumped him, he dumped her, .:o

Let me clarify :

Its about a child, not a relationship.

He vanished for no reason, other than to escape his responabilitys to provide for his offspring. It's nothing to do with relationships. If the child went into care or the mother was a mad-axe wielding murderer - all the above still apply's.


It's called a moral duty.