Unreasonable shift hours

ceridwen

O.P. - please dont be put off by Hammyman and his "buddies" on here. There are ALWAYS people like him posting "anti" posts on MSE - please ignore them - they are clearly jealous as heck of someone trying to have standard legal work conditions.

It IS perfectly correct that - in law - your son is entitled to a 20 minute break after 6 hours at work and it HIS business where he spends it...

dark_lady

You just know that Hammyman would be the first to complain if he was served in this shop by this young man and the young man was having to eat at the same time!

DCFC79

ceridwen wrote: »

It IS perfectly correct that - in law - your son is entitled to a 20 minute break after 6 hours at work and it HIS business where he spends it...

you sure as my last job also in retail we werent allowed to leave the premises on our 15/ or 30 minute break in the afternoon,

Sambucus_Nigra

Caroline44 wrote: »

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Yes, it's illegal. Simple as.

biggaz26

ceridwen wrote: »

O.P. - please dont be put off by Hammyman and his "buddies" on here. There are ALWAYS people like him posting "anti" posts on MSE - please ignore them - they are clearly jealous as heck of someone trying to have standard legal work conditions.

It IS perfectly correct that - in law - your son is entitled to a 20 minute break after 6 hours at work and it HIS business where he spends it...

I didnt argue over the breaks. He is entitled to them and should ensure he recieves them.

My issue was the whole 'Can he claim jsa again is he quits because he is have to work too hard'.

Probably but I dont see why he should be allowed! I work hard but I cant leave to claim benifits just because i dont like it.

I might be wrong but that for me seems to be the issue here, if you read between the lines.

Im just saying is all!

G

Caroline44

Can I clarify a couple of things here pls? My son isn't trying to get out of working and back onto benefits to sit on his backside as big !ss 26 is trying to make out - sorry that sbe biggaz26 - my typing is terrible. He wants to work and has spent months sending out CV's and calling in on businesses and companies, but also wants to be treated fairly - as does everybody, surely?

He's also worked in charity shops to gain experience etc. He was on jsa for only a couple of weeks when he took on the part time job. He could have been claiming jsa a long time before he did but didn't! (pls don't bother to come back at me with sarcastic comments as to what a 'hero' he is for not claiming any earlier either Hammyman)

I am not 'whinging' (Hammyman) about the 12 hr shift in the shop, I am 'whinging' about him not being able to take a break, about not even being able to sit down when he eats his lunch. What about 'Health and Safety' that this country is so obsessed with?

I am not going to apologise for wanting to know if he can claim jsa if he is forced out of a job due to his employer's inability to accept what the law states.

In fact comments such as biggaz26's and hammyman's make me think sod it let's get him on benefits just so we can annoy people like you two!

Thank you to ceridwen, Sambucus Nigra, jazzyman01 for your helpful advice and comments.

Enterprise_1701C

I will probably be harrangued for saying this, and it would not be worth it unless he was there for a while, but it sounds like he could claim constructive dismissal if he does all he can to solve the problems but is still forced to leave due to unfair terms.

lucylucky

If your son needs something "official" to back him up have a read of this

Caroline44

Thanks luckylucky and Jane. His next shift is on Saturday and he is going to talk to them again. He doesn't want to leave as he would rather earn his money than get it from the government. He also, doesn't want to leave them in the lurch as xmas is coming - he's their only employee at the moment and they have 2 businesses to run. He just wants to iron out the 'break' issue. His boss is quite aggressive and abrupt but he says he gets on quite well with her!

lucylucky

Caroline44 wrote: »

Thanks luckylucky and Jane. His next shift is on Saturday and he is going to talk to them again. He doesn't want to leave as he would rather earn his money than get it from the government. He also, doesn't want to leave them in the lurch as xmas is coming - he's their only employee at the moment and they have 2 businesses to run. He just wants to iron out the 'break' issue. His boss is quite aggressive and abrupt but he says he gets on quite well with her!

There may well be some genuine need for him not to leave the premises however he is entitled to an uninterrupted break of not less than 20 minutes once he has worked more than 6 hours.

He should start by asking about this, in a non-confrontational way to see what sort of response he gets. Once he does that he will have a better idea of the situation, e.g. does he have a fight on his hands.

Keep us posted.