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MPG not as described

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  • Rossy.
    Rossy. Posts: 2,484 Forumite
    What a lot of nonsense! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:


    is it?

    Only place a 4x4 should be is in the desert or anywhere that warrants off road abilities.

    Running a 4x4 on tarmac not only is pointless but it's a waste of a car IMO.

    Then again i don't see the appeal in them at all but each to their own and that
    If Adam and Eve were created first
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  • Hintza
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    Rossy. wrote: »
    Then again i don't see the appeal in them at all but each to their own and that

    It is all horses for courses though isn't it.

    How else do I tow something weighing 2+ tonnes in field and elsewhere?
  • Lum
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    My mum used to drive one of the old model Vitaras (the ones with a proper high/low range transfer box) years before urban 4x4s became fashionable.

    The reason was that where she worked everyone parked on this bit of grassy hill that belonged to the company, but when it rained it was too muddy to drive up and you had to go park in the NCP over the road, and pay the ridiculous parking charges, but her little Vitara, once set to 4L, could get up there even in the rain, avoiding having to give money to NCP. This more than offset the increase in fuel consumption. As a bonus it was fun to drive and she liked having the option of hardtop, softtop or no roof at all.
    Marv02 wrote: »
    1) Tire Pressure. - Check that ALL your tires are equally under the same load, as a matter of fact, read the side of each tire and it should tell you what pressure they are supposed to be at. Go to a petrol station and fill those bad-boys back up. (believe in me when I say that it makes a HUGE difference)

    Dear god no. The pressure stated on the sidewall is the maximum safe pressure that the tyre can take (ie. any more than this and you risk it exploding). The correct pressure will be on a sticker either inside the door frame or under the bonnet. Failing that it will be in the owners manual.

    The reason it makes a huge difference is that you are overinflating the tyre so the flat surface with the tread becomes round and most of it is not making contact with the road. This will affect your stopping distance dramatically.

    Also note that the pressure gauge on petrol station air machines are usually inaccurate, and made even more inaccurate by the fact that you have just been driving and thus the tyres will be hot.

    Do it properly with a foot pump, or ciggy lighter powered pump if you're lazy, with the car on your drive and cold.
    3) Service. ... Take it to ... quick fit
    No, just no.
  • Rossy.
    Rossy. Posts: 2,484 Forumite
    Hintza wrote: »
    It is all horses for courses though isn't it.

    How else do I tow something weighing 2+ tonnes in field and elsewhere?

    See my post.

    Clearly states they should be places that warrant them.

    A land rover etc is perfectly understandable if your a farmer or what ever but the appeal of BMW X5's, Vitara or any other excuse for a 4x4 is pointless
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  • rev_henry
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    Rossy. wrote: »
    See my post.

    Clearly states they should be places that warrant them.

    A land rover etc is perfectly understandable if your a farmer or what ever but the appeal of BMW X5's, Vitara or any other excuse for a 4x4 is pointless
    I understand your point but if I want to drive a ridiculous huge car and can afford to do so I will thank you very much.
  • Gloomendoom
    Gloomendoom Posts: 16,551 Forumite
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    edited 12 November 2010 at 4:13PM
    Rossy. wrote: »
    is it?

    Only place a 4x4 should be is in the desert or anywhere that warrants off road abilities.

    Running a 4x4 on tarmac not only is pointless but it's a waste of a car IMO.

    Then again i don't see the appeal in them at all but each to their own and that

    What has that got to do with how pleasant they are to own or drive?

    Judging by the numbers on the roads, a lot of people must find them very pleasant to own and drive.

    Rossy. wrote: »
    See my post.

    Clearly states they should be places that warrant them.

    A land rover etc is perfectly understandable if your a farmer or what ever but the appeal of BMW X5's, Vitara or any other excuse for a 4x4 is pointless

    The point might just be that people like the look of them, like driving them, want to fit in with a particular social scene etc. Whatever the reason, I expect it was as the result of a particular need.
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  • Wig
    Wig Posts: 14,139 Forumite
    Not much point adding to this thread until OP answers #2
  • Hammyman wrote: »
    Its a petrol 4x4...what did you expect? And my mate has a petrol Landrover Discovery - SIXTEEN MILES PER GALLON. Recent model Range Rovers are barely in double figures.



    Not a chance in hell. I used to do a night trunk with another lorry driver to London and back. He averaged just over 6MPG, I did just short of 9 - same type of wagon, same load, same route, within a couple of minutes on the journey time. The difference was the style of driving. If I can have a difference of over 1/3 better, it is more than within the realms of reality to have a 10 or 20% variance.

    And you'll not get anywhere near 30MPG doing 70MPH with a thing geared for offroad and having the aerodynamics of a breeze block.


    I agree with this really, mpg is mostly controlled by your driving style.You might not drive particularly quickly but that doesn't mean you aren't wasting unecessary fuel at or below the speed limit.I can usually match manufacturers figures when I want, I can also destroy them if I put my foot down.

    Look how much more efficient Hammy was, he effectively did 50% more mpg than his mate by using a more economical driving style, which doesn't necessarily make you a slower driver.
  • smjxm09
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    pstuart wrote: »
    Just got the same (163) - showing 33mpg after a week - still tight?

    My Mondeo has the new Euro 5 engine with the powershift semi-automatic gearbox (CO2 149g/km) Only on the second tank of fuel now.
  • Gloomendoom
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    smjxm09 wrote: »
    My Mondeo has the new Euro 5 engine with the powershift semi-automatic gearbox (CO2 149g/km) Only on the second tank of fuel now.

    My Chrysler has an engine and a gearbox. I'm only on the second tank fuel too.

    !!!!!!?
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