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  • Reminds me of an Apple iMac :eek:
  • Niv
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    All well and good chaps and i understand about this being difficult to upgrade and all that but your average home pc user will not want to do this nor have lots of wires everywhere that come with a tower PC and monitor.

    What is an 'averagePC user' in your opinion? I am willing to bet your 'averagePC user' doesnt want a touch screen either.

    Someone above put it best, something along the lines of 'all the disadvantages of a laptop with none of the advantages'.
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  • rygon
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    But upgrading could also mean getting a PC specialist to put in the RAM, new motherboard etc. These components will be cheaper to buy if using a tower pc I presume, rather than an all in one pc.

    I do like the look of those pcs, but I think touch screens are just a fad (cant use them for gaming, and im guessing it will be a bit hit and miss with excel trying to select the correct cells etc). You can get a better spec cheaper. So you need to decide if the looks justify buying that pc over getting a normal (or compact) machine
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  • Woby_Tide
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    I've used All-in-One PCs for about 7 or 8 years now. Both times I got reasonable deals on them compared to what I wanted to acheive with a slim tower/SFF so it made more space. On the previous one I changed the RAM and the hard drive over time. The skill required was operating a Philips screwdriver. On the current one(Dell XPS One) it is coming up to 3 years old and I haven't actually taken it apart yet for any reason. Not needed too.

    If people are looking at an All-in-one it's because they have a specific requirement, nor are they likely to be in to self upgrades, and any fixes whether it's a desktop, laptop or all-in-one, they will be getting someone in. Me? I'd have been quite happy to get a SFF or slim tower but for the prices I couldn't find anything to match what I was getting at a similar price. I also decided the convenience of having a single unit was the main benefit. It's on pretty much 24x7, it's used as a TV in the room it's located in, it's spent it's days in small cabinets, on desks, on shelves, it even lived on the kitchen counter for a while, if it had been a desktop it wouldn't have managed any of those without having wires trailing everywhere. All-in-ones have a place, just because there may be something cheaper, something easier to fix, something easier to upgrade, doesn't mean it should be discounted.

    (I probably wouldn't pay £600+ odd for them admittedly but if the deal stacks up compared to others around I'd still always consider them)
  • Niv wrote: »
    What is an 'averagePC user' in your opinion? I am willing to bet your 'averagePC user' doesnt want a touch screen either.

    Someone above put it best, something along the lines of 'all the disadvantages of a laptop with none of the advantages'.

    Your average pc user is outlined above - will just want it to use email browse the web and maybe keep hold of their photos.

    And it does look pretty and takes up less space then a tower PC.And Woby has said it perfectly
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  • rygon
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    As said, you are paying for the looks and touch screen. If thats important to the OP then yeh go for it, if not then save yourself the money and get a tower PC.
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  • custardy
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    Woby_Tide wrote: »
    I've used All-in-One PCs for about 7 or 8 years now. Both times I got reasonable deals on them compared to what I wanted to acheive with a slim tower/SFF so it made more space. On the previous one I changed the RAM and the hard drive over time. The skill required was operating a Philips screwdriver. On the current one(Dell XPS One) it is coming up to 3 years old and I haven't actually taken it apart yet for any reason. Not needed too.

    If people are looking at an All-in-one it's because they have a specific requirement, nor are they likely to be in to self upgrades, and any fixes whether it's a desktop, laptop or all-in-one, they will be getting someone in. Me? I'd have been quite happy to get a SFF or slim tower but for the prices I couldn't find anything to match what I was getting at a similar price. I also decided the convenience of having a single unit was the main benefit. It's on pretty much 24x7, it's used as a TV in the room it's located in, it's spent it's days in small cabinets, on desks, on shelves, it even lived on the kitchen counter for a while, if it had been a desktop it wouldn't have managed any of those without having wires trailing everywhere. All-in-ones have a place, just because there may be something cheaper, something easier to fix, something easier to upgrade, doesn't mean it should be discounted.

    (I probably wouldn't pay £600+ odd for them admittedly but if the deal stacks up compared to others around I'd still always consider them)


    we have a Sony Vaio all in one in the living room
    its a pretty unit,has bluray,streams to the TV etc
    doesnt take up space and does the job
    yes its not easily upgradeable but i got it on a 1/2price misprice ;)
    not for everyone but does the job
    i would always have a 'proper' desktop in the house though
  • Francesanne
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    gonzo127 wrote: »
    i also would also ask why you think an all in one is the best bet for you?

    ~£650 will get you a pretty good desktop suitable for gaming for example this reference PC http://www.dinopc.com/shop/pc/configurePrd.asp?idproduct=935 with the following upgrades
    CPU to X4 CPU
    1tb hdd
    GTS 450
    the LG 22inch 1920 x 1080 LED montior
    550 thermaltake PSU
    knocks this up to £610 leaving you some for your choice of mouse and keyboard - please note i have not used this company before so do not know what their customer service is like i am just using this system as a reference because the spec for price is very good

    laptop wise for £20 extra you could get something like this http://www.ebuyer.com/product/199993 or for £30 less http://www.ebuyer.com/product/241722 both have similar spec (although slightly smaller hard drive)

    the only thing that it has going for it is of course the touch screen which probably makes up a good chunk of the price
    Have no desire for laptop. Didn't think the HP Touchsmart was particularly the best option for me but liked the look and feel of it & wanted some expert advice. Very grateful to everyone for their advice and views.
  • Francesanne
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    yes you can, i can most of the people who give advice on this part of the forum can but theres a lot of people out there who cant even fix a plug properly ( no offence OP) and these are the people who are going to use a PC for years before they even want to get a new one as they will not be really needing to upgrade anything anyway as it will work perfectly for what they want - Internet/email/ looking at pictures - upgrading to them will just mean getting a new one as they would have reckoned they got good use out of it.
    100% correct.
  • custardy
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    Have no desire for laptop. Didn't think the HP Touchsmart was particularly the best option for me but liked the look and feel of it & wanted some expert advice. Very grateful to everyone for their advice and views.

    i have to say.i dont really get the touch screen idea
    for me,im sitting with my hands about a foot or more from the screen.
    i would have to lean forward to touch the screen
    more suited for tablets
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