who is responsible... landlord or tenant?

judy_

to replace a broken window pane on the front door (cause unknown, broken overnight)

Thanks

Judy

CloudCuckooLand

The landlord. Probably using thier buildings insurance.

Assuming he accepts it was "trick or treaters", or similar, at fault...

...and has no reason to think you or a guest did the damage. Like broken glass on the outside, because it was hit from inside!

theartfullodger

Landlord : how he pays or if he has insurance is irrelevant. But report to police.

Artful (Landlord )

DVardysShadow

Which way did the glass fall? In or out?

It is only my thought, but inwards, more likely to be the Landlord, outwards more likely to be the tenant.

olly300

Landlord.

Get it sorted out asap.

Burglars can fit through small windows.

judy_

Thanks for the replies.

Broken glass was on my door mat, so was done from the outside.

I thought it was landlords responsibility but when I spoke to the letting agents earlier they were having none of it. I said it wasn't my fault, their reply was "Not the landlords fault either".

I have boarded the pane up (its only about 10 inches by 6 inches). Might just copy this thread and send to letting agents.

Cheers

Judy

theartfullodger

Sadly letting agents frequently don't know what they are talking about. Ask them does their logic mean if the roof starts leaking after 30 years Sterling service should you pay for that too?

Hope this isn't one of my houses!

theartfullodger

Hi Letting agent!! Suggest you read LL&T Act 1985 Section 11

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/70/crossheading/repairing-obligations

11 Repairing obligations in short leases. E+W

(1)In a lease to which this section applies (as to which, see sections 13 and 14) there is implied a covenant by the lessor—

(a)to keep in repair the structure and exterior of the dwelling-house (including drains, gutters and external pipes),

Think the Judge would decide Window is "Structure or Exterior"..

Cheers!

Artful

PasturesNew

If you go to bed and the window's there .. and your ex turns up shouting the odds and smashes it = you.
If you go to bed and the window's there ... and some drunken idiot wending his way home decides to smash it = landlord.
If you go to bed and the window's there ... OH comes home and you get out of bed, go downstairs and hit him over the head with a rolling pin, which then bounces off his head and takes the window out = you.

theartfullodger

PasturesNew wrote: »

If you go to bed and the window's there .. and your ex turns up shouting the odds and smashes it = you.
If you go to bed and the window's there ... and some drunken idiot wending his way home decides to smash it = landlord.
If you go to bed and the window's there ... OH comes home and you get out of bed, go downstairs and hit him over the head with a rolling pin, which then bounces off his head and takes the window out = you.

Ultimately, these and other assertions will only be proven if & when the case gets to court before a Judge: He interprets the law & decides. Posters here, including little me, are but speculating... As is any solicitor advising you.. (But, PN has several points!)

G_M

PasturesNew wrote: »

If you go to bed and the window's there .. and your ex turns up shouting the odds and smashes it = you. If the ex is a joint tenant, yes. If not, the ex is no different to the drunk below - a 3rd party.
If you go to bed and the window's there ... and some drunken idiot wending his way home decides to smash it = landlord.
If you go to bed and the window's there ... OH comes home and you get out of bed, go downstairs and hit him over the head with a rolling pin, which then bounces off his head and takes the window out = you.

I think you're 2/3s right this time Pastures!