I got conned by cash back

prosaver

heres a test for you lot -
(Without £30 cash back from supermarket.com)
New plan details
Online Energy Saver 11 Dual Fuel from ScottishPower
Unit prices Gas
5.327p per KWh (5.073p excl. VAT)
2.768p per KWh (2.636p excl. VAT) above 2680 kWh p.a
Electricity
15.80p per KWh (15.05p excl. VAT)
7.17p per KWh (6.83p excl. VAT) above 900 kWh p.a
All prices shown are inclusive of V.A.T. at 5%
Discounts
Dual Fuel Discount: £16.80
Online Energy Discount: £15.75
All prices shown are inclusive of V.A.T. at 5%

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Online Energy Saver 11 Dual Fuel
The prices for this product are guaranteed to remain a minimum 2% cheaper than our standard monthly Direct Debit prices for gas and electricity until November 2011 (31st October 2011)
Cancellation fees £30 Electricity & £20 Gas apply if contract terminated before November 2011
Mandatory online account management. Upload meter readings, generate bills and track usage in your own online system
This Offer has limited availability and may be removed at any time
Standard Charge - GasStanding charge £0.00
Unit Rates 1 Unit Rates 2 Unit Rates 3
5.3267p 2.7678p
Up to 2680Kwh
Gas Discount:
£5.25 per year.
Standard Charge - ElectricityStanding charge £0.00
Unit Rates 1 Unit Rates 2 Unit Rates 3
15.8036p 7.1726p
Up to 900Kwh
Electricity Discount:
£10.50 per year.
Discount: £16.80 per year.
No Online Energy Discount: £15.75 cash back
(Gain £30 cash back from supermarket.com)
so really, I will get £30 cash back, minus (no Online Energy Discount: £15.75) = £14.25 cash back. However what will happen next year is I will not have the £30 cash back from supermarket.com. and not get the Online Energy Discount: £15.75 cash back! So really the cash back should not be recommended as 30 quid (naughty boy! martin)
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Premier_2

:huh:

The online energy discount is a discount applied to the bill by the supplier if you abide by the appropriate terms.

The cashback is paid by the comparison site if you are able to and do actually switch via them (using the special MSE links)

You are correct that cashback is only paid once.

I'm not sure why you are comparing/deducting a discount applied by a supplier to applicable customers bills from a cashback amount paid by a comparison site? :huh:

I think the title of this thread is misleading and should be changed by the OP.
How have you been conned?

Edit: despite the OP now admitting they have made an error, I see they still haven't changed the misleading thread title.

t0rt0ise

How do you know you will not get the online discount? Have you been told this?

notbritishgas

This link to the SP website confirms that you will get the £16.80 and the £15.75 discount.
Hardly a con.

http://www.scottishpower.co.uk/products/online-energy-saver-10.aspx

george1939

Premier wrote: »

:huh:

The online energy discount is a discount applied to the bill by the supplier if you abide by the appropriate terms.

The cashback is paid by the comparison site if you are able to and do actually switch via them (using the special MSE links)

You are correct that cashback is only paid once.

I'm not sure why you are comparing/deducting a discount applied by a supplier to applicable customers bills from a cashback amount paid by a comparison site? :huh:

I think the title of this thread is misleading and should be changed by the OP.
How have you been conned?[/QUOT

re above-{You are correct that cashback is only paid once.}

Could you clarify please .Does this mean once you have had one cash back that's your lot so that when you change again say 12 months for a better deal no cash back from that comparison site

t0rt0ise

george1939 wrote: »

Could you clarify please .Does this mean once you have had one cash back that's your lot so that when you change again say 12 months for a better deal no cash back from that comparison site

No, what they mean is that you get the cashback when you change but you won't get it again if you then stay there for a further year. You can change suppliers as often as you like and get cashback each time as long as you are moving to a different supplier and not simply staying with the same one.

george1939

t0rt0ise wrote: »

No, what they mean is that you get the cashback when you change but you won't get it again if you then stay there for a further year. You can change suppliers as often as you like and get cashback each time as long as you are moving to a different supplier and not simply staying with the same one.

Thankyou I understand now

Premier_2

Actually, with the cashback from moneysupermarket.com

Payments are restricted to one per household

http://www.moneysupermarket.com/utilities/cashback.aspx

prosaver

how i got conned was ....I was excepting £30 cash back....not supermarket .com giving me a special contract (via scottish power) which I lose £15 every year.
To put it simple there are 2 contracts. 1. £30 pound cash back contract which states you do not recieve the £16 online discount.
Second contract, sign up through scottish power independently, ( which is legally a different contract) and you will receive £16 on-line discount every year.
So the conn is 2 different contracts, I was excepting them to be the same.(as you do)
Get in touch with martin he'll sort it out..

t0rt0ise

I don't believe that's true. I think you have misunderstood. Anyone know for sure?

notbritishgas

prosaver wrote: »

how i got conned was ....I was excepting £30 cash back....not supermarket .com giving me a special contract (via scottish power) which I lose £15 every year.
To put it simple there are 2 contracts. 1. £30 pound cash back contract which states you do not recieve the £16 online discount.
Second contract, sign up through scottish power independently, ( which is legally a different contract) and you will receive £16 on-line discount every year.
So the conn is 2 different contracts, I was excepting them to be the same.(as you do)

I also think you have misunderstood, the only tariffs/contracts are those published on the suppliers website or via their telephone lines. When you sign up through a cashback or comparison site then you sign up to one of the published tariffs.
They do not have "special" tariffs tailored to individual people or 3rd parties.