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  • JoeEngland
    JoeEngland Posts: 445 Forumite
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    jamesd wrote: »
    For the British Steel case we do because without advisers suggesting grossly inappropriate investments its easy to see that transferring is likely to make someone substantially better off.

    It's clear from some of the coverage that instead of normal investments and well established drawdown approaches advisers who might best be described as sharks or perhaps even crooks have been chasing after the money.

    The US study you linked to was interesting, given that in the UK it's typically irrational to buy an annuity at normal pension pot sizes and retirement ages.* Even for someone who does want a guaranteed income. State pension deferral for guaranteed, drawdown to handle drop over time, tend to outcompete until life expectancy is sufficiently reduced to help the annuities.

    *A few tens of thousands and insufficient other money to retire until state pension age or close to it.

    Speaking of annuities, it's only because of the pension freedoms introduced a few years ago that I can contemplate retiring early. With a annuities I'd need to work till at least 60 to then get by until SP. For that I'm grateful that a govt finally let people take responsibility for their own affairs.
  • jamesd
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    JoeEngland wrote: »
    Speaking of annuities, it's only because of the pension freedoms introduced a few years ago that I can contemplate retiring early. With a annuities I'd need to work till at least 60 to then get by until SP. For that I'm grateful that a govt finally let people take responsibility for their own affairs.
    I'm grateful that I was a respondent to the survey that preceded them. I was able to explain how the GAD limit was low early on when it needed to be high and say that if they wanted me to increase pension contributions they should stop forcing me to use non-pension money to get a level income throughout retirement. They delivered, though I'll never know how much of a role that feedback played.
  • chiefie
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    The one piece of government legislation that I actually directly benefit from massively as I can stop work earlier than planned. Thank you o GO
  • gadgetmind
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    Yes, we expected some loosening of the GAD rules (which had ironically just become more draconian) or changes to what qualified for uncapped drawdown, but what we got was utterly wonderful.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • chucknorris
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    edited 3 July 2018 at 1:05PM
    DairyQueen wrote: »

    At no point did I consider myself in competition with fellow students; the challenge was to reach a benchmark I set myself.

    Regimens, schedules and competition in retirement? Not me guv. Sounds far too much like a description of my working life.

    You make being in competition sound like a bad thing, maybe it is for you (we are all different), but I relish competition. Not just to help motivate me to achieve my benchmarks, but also for the competition itself. I have total respect (usually) for my opponents, if it wasn't for them I wouldn't be enjoying the competition that they are providing.

    I actually like my work too, although I handed in my notice in to retire 2 years ago, my employer asked me to stay on and work one day per week, which I consider much better than retirement.

    I ran my first Parkrun (5 km) last Saturday, after a year away from running from being injured (still got a couple of minor injuries, that reminds me I must update my signature soon), I didn't do a great time, 26.43, but I was satisfied for the first proper run in a year and on a hilly course. I couldn't have done that time without competing with others. I just got back from a 6 mile run (more of a fast jog) with my dog about an hour ago. I plan to increase my weekly 'long run' by a mile a month until I get up to the half marathon distance (unless any old injuries reappear).
    Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one birdThe only time Chuck Norris was wrong was when he thought he had made a mistakeChuck Norris puts the "laughter" in "manslaughter".I've started running again, after several injuries had forced me to stop
  • Triumph13
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    Not saying that you are like this chucknorris, but there seem to be many highly competitive people who don't really seem to grasp that not everyone is like them. This wouldn't be a problem, were it not for the fact that it tends to be the competitive people who end up in charge and defining the culture that other people have to work in.
    I fully agree that an enterprise has to be competitive against it's external rivals, but within that context, many people thrive much better in a spirit of internal cooperation towards a joint goal than in a culture of cutthroat competition with their peers.
  • chucknorris
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    edited 3 July 2018 at 1:57PM
    Triumph13 wrote: »
    Not saying that you are like this chucknorris, but there seem to be many highly competitive people who don't really seem to grasp that not everyone is like them. This wouldn't be a problem, were it not for the fact that it tends to be the competitive people who end up in charge and defining the culture that other people have to work in.
    I fully agree that an enterprise has to be competitive against it's external rivals, but within that context, many people thrive much better in a spirit of internal cooperation towards a joint goal than in a culture of cutthroat competition with their peers.

    I acknowledge that you said, 'Not saying that you are like that, and I'm not like that, and I actually said so in my post:
    You make being in competition sound like a bad thing, maybe it is for you (we are all different), but I relish competition. Not just to help motivate me to achieve my benchmarks, but also for the competition itself. I have total respect (usually) for my opponents, if it wasn't for them I wouldn't be enjoying the competition that they are providing.

    I believe in healthy competition, not cut throat competition, even when I lose, I get something out of it, even if it is only motivation to try/train harder, but sometimes it is more than that, i.e. I might have learned something. So for me competition isn't just about winning. In fact, I think that I have probably learned more in defeat/failure than in success/winning.

    EDIT: Actually a lot of the time when I am being competitive, it is only with myself, like this morning seeing how quickly I could run 6 miles (Ok my dog was there too, but I can tell you now, there is no way I could win a race against him), and I am just about to try and do 10 reps bench pressing the weight that I have so far only achieved 9 reps with, I don't think I'll do it today, but I am confident that I will do it soon.
    Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one birdThe only time Chuck Norris was wrong was when he thought he had made a mistakeChuck Norris puts the "laughter" in "manslaughter".I've started running again, after several injuries had forced me to stop
  • Sipowicz
    Sipowicz Posts: 60 Forumite
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    Chuck.......chill! ;-)
  • chucknorris
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    Sipowicz wrote: »
    Chuck.......chill! ;-)

    I am totally chilled lol. But I won't be tonight at 7 pm!
    Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one birdThe only time Chuck Norris was wrong was when he thought he had made a mistakeChuck Norris puts the "laughter" in "manslaughter".I've started running again, after several injuries had forced me to stop
  • gallygirl
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    bugslet wrote: »
    About ten years ago, a group of us on a different (womans) forum decided to get our 10,000 and more steps a day. We diligently measured our stride lengths ( before fitbits etc were popular) and I averaged it out to equate to x many steps= 1 mile, so collectively we could cover 50, for example, miles a day. The following day, I'd post about where we were, nice pictures, snippets of info, nothing too heavy as it was all very light hearted.

    We have covered many routes, round the coast of Britain, across Europe, east & west coast of the States, route 66, Oz and NZ, ( we have a Kiwi and a Yank), the odd pilgramige route, Argentina was enjoyable. Trouble is after all this time, we are running out of countries, so the mileage totting up has gone out of the window and we do things like visit World Heritage Sites. Currently we are doing the Silk Road and are in Baku, Azerbaijan.

    As I said, after all that time, we have morphed from a group of fat middle aged women into 20 year old bikini babes, with a penchant for alcohol and fast living, and occasional imprisonment. To explain how bizarre it has become, we have a virtual RV driven by someone that wanted to be a Stepsister, but doesn't like walking, so she drives the virtual RV. Though not over bridges. It really isn't serious and the daily quality is highly dependent on finding a place that is worth talking about. Desert areas, sheesh.

    You asked:o I hesitate to recommend anyone join us as it's bonkers really.


    Actually I think it sounds rather marvellous :T. You're keeping active and 'seeing' the world, no doubt learning as you and I'm sure some have followed up with real trips.

    I can recommend walking the Caminito del Rey in Spain if you want some attractive scenery, though you have to wear a hard hat (which clashes somewhat with the bikinis :rotfl:) and the RV will have to wait in the car park :).


    Oh, and great group name :)
    A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
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