We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Urgent bricklaying/wall advice needed please

Next door have had a new wall built, and in doing so they had to knock down the short shared walls between the properys (about 4 foot long, with a column on each side) when building the new one, they have not connected the wall in any way to the coloumn (no cement or wall ties, just a 2 - 3 cm gap) they said this is the norm now for insurance etc. Are they talking rubish, or is that an accepted way to do things??
“Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?”
Juvenal, The Sixteen Satires

Comments

  • ormus
    ormus Posts: 42,714 Forumite
    if you mean brick piers (coloumns), you dont really need them unless the wall is 3 metres long.
    even so, if they are there then you should bond/fix into them.

    you dont need expansion joints for such as short distance.
    Get some gorm.
  • davemorton
    davemorton Posts: 29,084 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Car Insurance Carver!
    ormus wrote: »
    if you mean brick piers (coloumns), you dont really need them unless the wall is 3 metres long.
    even so, if they are there then you should bond/fix into them.

    you dont need expansion joints for such as short distance.

    Yeah, mean piers. They first said it was an expansion gap, but I just looked at them and said in an inquisitive manner "a 3cm expansion gap for brick?" Thats when they said it was an insurance thing. Columns were there already. Thinking about it, it only really weakens next door wall, not my column, so will let them get on with it.
    “Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?”
    Juvenal, The Sixteen Satires
  • ormus
    ormus Posts: 42,714 Forumite
    how tall is the wall?

    i wouldnt let my kids anywhere near it!
    Get some gorm.
  • davemorton
    davemorton Posts: 29,084 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Car Insurance Carver!
    ormus wrote: »
    how tall is the wall?

    i wouldnt let my kids anywhere near it!

    Wall is approx 4 foot tall, 2 brick thick.
    “Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?”
    Juvenal, The Sixteen Satires
  • iamcornholio
    iamcornholio Posts: 1,900 Forumite
    Walls are bonded to piers either by overlapping (ie bonding) the bricks, or at the very least with steel ties or mesh every few courses.

    But from your description its not clear if the columns have been left in place with the new wall between them, or if new brick piers have been built too

    I can't understand why a 3cm gap was left though. Even to bodge it the wall would be butted up to the pier/column, so could there be another reason why such a gap was left?

    Anyway a low one-brick thick wall of that height is not going anywhere
  • davemorton
    davemorton Posts: 29,084 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Car Insurance Carver!
    But from your description its not clear if the columns have been left in place with the new wall between them, or if new brick piers have been built too

    Yep, one column has been left, with the wall running (almost) up to it. Looks like ill just have to mix some muck up myself for it. What annoyed me was when I pointed the gap out to the monkeys, they tried to say it was an 'expansion gap'!! How much do they think bricks expand?????
    “Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?”
    Juvenal, The Sixteen Satires
  • There are regulations on building up to and joining to the house wall. I believe it might be in the party wall act. A small gap would get around that I think.

    Could this be why they left that gap?

    Regulations now are getting ridiculous.
  • dander
    dander Posts: 1,824 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    I have been told it's best not to fix a garden wall to a house wall, but to leave a slight gap, so as to avoid breaching the damp proof course. Would this consideration affect your wall?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.4K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.7K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.4K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.4K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 601.2K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.6K Life & Family
  • 259.2K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.