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Help with letter to landlord re rent increase

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  • missile
    missile Posts: 11,774 Forumite
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    Misslie, are you a landlord, if so what would you think if ou received the below?

    Dear …….
    Re: notice of rent increase at PROPERTY NAME dated

    We have been tenants within your property since ….. We've always paid the rent on time & in full. We have kept the property in good condition and have been understanding of the disruption caused to us in relation to the recent work that has been carried out to the main bathroom.

    We would invite you to consider the business benefits of no void, no disruption and the certainty of income for the next 6 months/1 year (length of time dependant on your requirements.)

    Yes I am a landlord, although my portfolio is much smaller now. I would not be offended by that letter. Have you considered phoning? It is often easier to discuss things informaly. The only time I had to evict was a student who was studying law he was a real pain in the ..... .

    I would like to think I am fair and reasonable. I never raised the rent with a sitting tenant. My son lets his flat and he was intending to increase the rent on completion of the tenancy, I presuaded him not to.

    I would suggest you check out options if your LL refuses to compromise.
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  • missile
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    edited 1 November 2010 at 1:32PM
    tbs624 wrote: »
    That's one "n" there in tenant missile ;)

    Lately there have been some LLs on this board who bleat "the law works all one way, in favour of a T" and yet if a T is on a stat periodic they are particularly vulnerable to this kind of retaliatory action by the LL . Oppose the LLs rent rise and he'll kick you out, complain about repairs issues and he'll kick you out.....

    ....
    Missile - so you'd be prepared to cut your nose off to spite your face? Yes you can s21 the T - two things:

    1. the T is likely to refuse viewings
    2. the T does not have to leave at the expiry of your s21, without you obtaining a court order.

    Thanks for correcting my spelling:o

    I do not like the adversarial tenant v LL opinions often expressed on this forum. IMHO it does not have to be that way. I have always tried to be fair and with one notable exception my tenants have responded in similar way.

    I have never asked tenant to permit viewings. I like to redecorate and carry out maintenance between lets.

    I have only evicted one law student .... at the end of his tenancy agreement.

    An old fashioned attitude to business, maybe?
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  • missile wrote: »
    I do not like the adversarial tenant v LL opinions often expressed on this forum. IMHO it does not have to be that way.

    Very good, agreed.. so,

    Any tennant who threatened me with rent tribunal would get Section 21 notice by return.
    (sic)
    .
    So a tenant wishing to exercise his legal rights as enshrined in good British laws is adversarial is he?? As opposed to your threatened response??

    Cheers!

    Artful (LL since 2000)
  • Personally I prefer to have continuity of a good tenant who pays in full and on time. So much so that in 2 1/2 years I have not increased the rent.
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  • Anyway I am struggling to word it, wondered if anyone had written a similar letter that I could pinch the wordng from?

    Was in a similar situation a few months ago. Personally, I can't see the point in writing a letter explaining how important good tenants are and how bad voids are - he is a LL, he knows this.

    I simply sent a short email to the LA along the lines of "We really want to stay, but if a rent rise is imposed we will have to look elsewhere." LL weighed up the options, rent rise was dropped, we stayed on.
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    missile wrote: »
    ....I do not like the adversarial tenant v LL opinions often expressed on this forum. IMHO it does not have to be that way. I have always tried to be fair and with one notable exception my tenants have responded in similar way.
    As Artful says, your own earlier post was pretty adversarial.;)

    I would agree with you that fair treatment of the other party is the best way to go whether you are LL or T. Unfortunately, some ( again, whether LL or T) find that the fairness is *not* reciprocated.
  • F_T_Buyer
    F_T_Buyer Posts: 1,139 Forumite
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    Had a letter from landlord to increase rent by £75 (required notice given) I think that we should write a letter to see if we can pursuede him not to. Good tenants, never late with rent, place kept in good condition. Putting rent up from 875 to 950 if we leave and it takes a month to replace he would lose a year of the rent increase.

    Anyway I am struggling to word it, wondered if anyone had written a similar letter that I could pinch the wordng from?
    Your address
    date
    LL Address

    Dear LL

    Re: Notice of rent increase at ??address??

    Thank you for your letter dated ???? informing us/me of a rent increase from ??date???

    I am struggling to understand your reasoning for an increase of over 8.5%. This increase is far above the rate of inflation, and puts the level of rent above other similar properties in the area.

    To date, I/we have not received a pay rise in the last ??xx years?? and would formally request the level of rent be unchanged for the next twelve months.

    As you are aware, we look after and respect the property and always pay rent on time, hopefully this is good enough reason to keep us as tenants.

    Could you please reply regarding your rent decision by ??date??

    I am looking forward to your response.

    Yours faithfully,

    Your Name


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    They will probably come back with a compromise! Ok, lie about the pay-rise part - but the LL will only come back saying mortgages are more expensive.
  • missile
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    Very good, agreed.. so,


    (sic)
    .
    So a tenant wishing to exercise his legal rights as enshrined in good British laws is adversarial is he?? As opposed to your threatened response??

    Cheers!

    Artful (LL since 2000)

    That is a fair point. My attitude is that we agreed a rent when you signed the contract and if you are no longer happy go find somewhere else.
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  • Dave101t
    Dave101t Posts: 4,157 Forumite
    err...his house his rules?
    8% increase seems ok, you could look for an 8% cheaper property and have all the hassle that goes therein?
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  • missile
    missile Posts: 11,774 Forumite
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    tbs624 wrote: »
    As Artful says, your own earlier post was pretty adversarial.;)

    I would agree with you that fair treatment of the other party is the best way to go whether you are LL or T. Unfortunately, some ( again, whether LL or T) find that the fairness is *not* reciprocated.

    It is not a situation that I would be in as I have said I would never seek to raise rent for a sitting tenant:A.
    "A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Gandhi
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