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Afternoon all... not my first post as I saw something else to reply to first ;)

Anyway - just checked in with the bank accounts, and have noticed that the DDs for tomorrow (1st Nov) have already gone out. Two are household bills and the third is a credit card. I then went to check the credit card, and the DD has already been applied, even though it says it is due tomorrow.

I thought the banks, and even their computer systems could not operate on Sundays, of all days, even in this day and age, so how come it's done the DDs a day early?

What would have happened if the money wasn't available today and I was banking on them coming out tomorrow? :eek:

It's a Lloyds TSB account if it makes any difference - I've never had that happen before with any other current account :huh:

Thanks!


You'll probably find me in the Debt Free Wannabes section from now on ;)
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  • zppp
    zppp Posts: 2,476 Forumite
    Afternoon all... not my first post as I saw something else to reply to first ;)

    Anyway - just checked in with the bank accounts, and have noticed that the DDs for tomorrow (1st Nov) have already gone out. Two are household bills and the third is a credit card. I then went to check the credit card, and the DD has already been applied, even though it says it is due tomorrow.

    I thought the banks, and even their computer systems could not operate on Sundays, of all days, even in this day and age, so how come it's done the DDs a day early?

    What would have happened if the money wasn't available today and I was banking on them coming out tomorrow? :eek:

    It's a Lloyds TSB account if it makes any difference - I've never had that happen before with any other current account :huh:

    Thanks!


    You'll probably find me in the Debt Free Wannabes section from now on ;)

    Most banks require that you have sufficient funds in the working day before the item is due. Thus on weekends it is normal to see a pending transaction dated for the following Monday. Some banks allow same day cover, however I am not sure how this operated with Lloyds.
    Best Regards

    zppp :)

  • Lokolo
    Lokolo Posts: 20,861 Forumite
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    Friday ends. The next working day is Monday. So transactions for them show. Although saying that I didn't think Lloyds did that!

    With Natwest when you have wages coming in. Anything that would usually come in on Monday would be backtracked to Saturday.
  • Torry_Quine
    Torry_Quine Posts: 18,872 Forumite
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    I'm with Lloyds and my DD due tomorrow are showing with tomorrow's date though and this is standard. I always make sure that thereis money in my account the day before they are due.
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  • rb10
    rb10 Posts: 6,334 Forumite
    The computer systems at many banks are pretty old, and can't really cope with modern things like 24-hour banking, and people being able to see their accounts at weekends.

    So they take the money at any time over the weekend.

    So Lloyds will generally take the money on a Sunday afternoon, but with Monday's date. Natwest, on the other hand, will (I believe) take it overnight on Friday/Saturday.

    One exception to this is Halifax, who will always do Monday's transactions on a Monday.

    Of course, it works the other way, too. If you are having money paid in, that will show up sooner as well.
  • Yeh all the transaction dates are tomorrow's - even the shopping the other half did on Thursday has tomorrow's date!

    So if their 'old' computer systems can indeed make transactions over the weekend, why do they bleat on about weekends not being 'working days' and BACS takes an extra two days :roll:

    Thank goodness for faster payments! (I think! :rotfl:)
  • Baldur
    Baldur Posts: 6,565 Forumite
    Lokolo wrote: »
    Friday ends. The next working day is Monday. So transactions for them show. Although saying that I didn't think Lloyds did that!
    Tomorrow's SO from an LTSB Vantage account for my LTSB Monthly Saver is showing as transacted today but with tomorrow's date.
  • stclair
    stclair Posts: 6,853 Forumite
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    Dont Lloyds TSB offer a 3.30 grace period anyway.

    So as long as there is cleared funds paid into the account by 3.30 on Monday you would be okay.
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  • pmduk
    pmduk Posts: 10,681 Forumite
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    I really think there should be a sticky post on this subject, it seems to confuse people all the time.
  • noh
    noh Posts: 5,817 Forumite
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    pmduk wrote: »
    I really think there should be a sticky post on this subject, it seems to confuse people all the time.
    Yes every weekend it confuses someone.
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    What would have happened if the money wasn't available today and I was banking on them coming out tomorrow?
    With the credit card payment, that would be too late, because the money is supposed to reach your account by the due date. If a weekend gets in the way, that means earlier rather than later.

    How late you can get away with a payment by debit card or FP depends on the lender, but with Direct Debit they'll go for it the night before, or Friday night for Monday.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
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