Buyers asking to send to a different address?

skap7309

Hi within the last few items i have placed on ebay ive had to buyers stating they live in France/Sweden but their daughter etc lives in UK can i post the item to their house instead?
The first was a bid so i ignored it but now someone with only 10 feedback is asking to send to their daughters house via paypal although he lives in France. Before i reply do i accept as there is nothing wrong or is this anything to do with fraud?

smartie1976

Hmmm. To get the paypal protection it has to go to the buyers address.

skap7309

smartie1976 wrote:

Hmmm. To get the paypal protection it has to go to the buyers address.

My thoughts to, i nearly replied that i can only send to the address registered to his paypal account but if there is nothing wrong a sale is a sale. I have just checked his feedback and he has been registered for over a year and his feedback includes a mixture of english and french languages, so it seems ok but i think i'll take what we both would do. Ta.

mclaren_2

smartie1976 wrote:

Hmmm. To get the paypal protection it has to go to the buyers address.

what paypal "protection"? they protect themself and themself only....

frivolous_fay

mclaren wrote:

what paypal "protection"? they protect themself and themself only....

I see you have a grudge against poopal, mclaren, but I'm interested... do you have experience of a sale which qualified for seller protection (minimum required feeedback, verified address) that went wrong?

mclaren_2

frivolous_fay wrote:

I see you have a grudge against poopal, mclaren, but I'm interested... do you have experience of a sale which qualified for seller protection (minimum required feeedback, verified address) that went wrong?

yes, have experiance of the company but same old horror stories you hear on https://www.paypalsucks.com and https://www.paypalwarning.com basicly -

posted item to London, special delivery, person got it, 2 and half months later they said summit was wrong with the item, to which i said, that if there was a problem, why has it taken 2 and a half months to sort out - paypal claim was put in by them, i put all my talk in, that the item was working when it left me and was sent with all protection ie bubble wrap, and the radio was sent working (gp300) and it was sent programmed with PMR 446 frequwncys - he never had a charger basicly he told me the battery went dead, i told paypal this (buy any radio, you need a charger) and paypal refunded him without me getting radio back. And the auction was listed and in the text, was put it was a GP300 radio, with no charger and 1 fully charged battery, working 100%.

frivolous_fay

Ok, so at least not a credit card fraud problem / item not received problem.

Essentially you had a so called item not as described dispute which went wrong for some reason.

Credit card fraud is my main worry when it comes to paypal.

Moglex

frivolous_fay wrote:

Ok, so at least not a credit card fraud problem / item not received problem.

Essentially you had a so called item not as described dispute which went wrong for some reason.

Credit card fraud is my main worry when it comes to paypal.

Well, it may be your main worry, but looking at the story above, I think anyone selling would have to be crazy to trust paypal.

One wonders whether they 'found' in the above case because the buyer did a chargeback and that was the only way they could keep their grubby little mits on the money.

soolin

This could not have been a straight chargeback as they can only be done for 45 days after payment. So it must have been something more.

I sell and i use paypal so I'm probably crazy, but in several thousand transactions I've not had a problem yet and frankly with all my competitors taking paypal my stuff would not sell at all if I stopped taking it.

Generally people fear what they have personal experience of having gone wrong, I dislike cheques more than I dislike paypal purely because I have had problems with them and have lost money.

Soo

mclaren_2

frivolous_fay wrote:

Ok, so at least not a credit card fraud problem / item not received problem.

Essentially you had a so called item not as described dispute which went wrong for some reason.

nope, the paypal reason for chargeback was "battery did not work" when in the auction, i had listed it has no charger and the battery was a fairly new one.
The fact paypal never asked them to send the radio back to me was one case.... the fact it was working is another.... i told the person they needed a charger which would cost about £10.

as for item not received, had 1 of these, one the item was received and they tried it on - i gave recorded delivery code - paypal said they would look in to it, froze the money (i had it transfering to my bank) and they stopped that, by saying that they needed to look in to it. 2 weeks later tehy said they had found in favour of the buyer, refund issued - i contacted royal mail, they confirmed it was signed for, contacted paypal again and again and again, finally got it sorted out, THEY made the mistake with putting in a wrong number - but it took me 4 weeks to get the money from them, over 5 emails and 6 phone calls and they were saying it wasnot their fault etc.... usuall BS with them - but never had fraud card used when paying me - do paypal allow this to happen?

I have never used paypal for ages - dont trust them now - i either send a cheque or use nochex to pay for items

Moglex

soolin wrote:

I sell and i use paypal so I'm probably crazy

Well I didn't mean literally crazy , but if you look at some of the horror stories it makes you wonder how many people are put off ebay trading altogether because, as you say, they know they must accept pp if their competitors do, but it really does look a minefield.

Of course, if you just read forums, the whole of ebay looks like a minefield, but I must have done a couple of hundred transactions (all buying) without a single problem. And despite what people say, the bargains are not all gone. I've saved hundreds of pounds by using ebay (partly because I wouldn't have been able to find some of the stuff I wanted second hand anywhere else).

And a lot of new stuff I can get 20 - 50% cheaper than by normal routes.