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Why is property unaffordable for even the relatively well-off among the population?

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  • Why not use the 2008 peak of $147

    Because surprisingly, although there was an uptick in inflation around 2008, despite the rise in oil prices inflation ex-energy remained remarkably subdued.

    There is a lot more to inflation than just the oil price - it is as much a monetary phenomenon as it is to do with the physical tightness in supply of any goods. I only posted the oil price history above because the CPI measure was ex-food and energy and it just added a bit of extra context.
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  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,494 Forumite
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    Funny that I bought my house in 1985 for £60k and would be lucky to get £300k for it and before you say it must be in some undesirable place it’s in Surrey.

    Was it a new-build when you bought it?
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  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    Was it a new-build when you bought it?

    No in 1985 average house price was about £31k now £166k
  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,494 Forumite
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    No in 1985 average house price was about £31k now £166k

    Yours would be 321k if it had moved in proportion, so you are lagging about 10%.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Why...?

    1. Not enough houses. This could be resolved by building more houses or not giving homes to every young (choose your own word) that gets pregnant rather than getting a job.
    2. Too many under occupied houses.
    3. The country cannot afford a propery crash. So, the government props up the housing market while eating away at the value with inflation and time. Unfortunately, as the Tories prefer a low wage economy, houses are likley to become more attractive as an asset.



    Answer: Build more houses.

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  • Gorgeous_George
    Gorgeous_George Posts: 7,964 Forumite
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    edited 28 October 2010 at 10:17PM
    Nowadays, is the having it all now attitude more responsible for the feeling of un-affordability?

    Only in part.

    I know there are people who cannot save but can afford £75 per month for a mobile phone but there others who earn £20K and live in expensive areas where a 2 bedroom house would cost 6 x their salary.

    My advice would be to move somewhere cheaper.

    GG
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  • ukcarper
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    edited 28 October 2010 at 7:31PM
    GDB2222 wrote: »
    Yours would be 321k if it had moved in proportion, so you are lagging about 10%.

    Yours would be £263k just wondered why it's increased so much. The figures are from two different sources, as land registry doesn’t go back that far and obviously averages are just that.
  • Brallaqueen
    Brallaqueen Posts: 1,355 Forumite
    Everybody, move to Wellingborough. You can get a mature semi detached 4 bed house for ~150k and be in London St Pancras in less than an hour.
    Short commute, low house prices for FTBs, everyone's a winner!

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-14147208.html

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-26050570.html

    4 bed terrace, less than 120k

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-15943185.html

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-14147208.html
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  • GDB2222
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    Yours would be £263k just wondered why it's increased so much. The figures are from two different sources, as land registry doesn’t go back that far and obviously averages are just that.

    I meant that 10% is not much - for the reasons you just gave. So we're in agreement.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    I meant that 10% is not much - for the reasons you just gave. So we're in agreement.

    Sorry I’m old and getting confused I was referring to Lillie Munchkin’s property.
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