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radiator leak from nut where you bleed it - advice?

As I'm sure you can tell from the thread title, I'm not any kind of expert in radiators!

I've got this leak from the little bolt that you twist to let air or water out when bleeding them. They are quite old radiators. I've tried tighting the bolt more but it still leaks.

Any advice on what to do next? I thougt there might be a few other things I could try to stop it before having to call a plumber!

Thanks all!

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  • Jonesya
    Jonesya Posts: 1,823 Forumite
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    edited 20 October 2010 at 9:54PM
    You can pick-up PTFE tape from most DIY stores, it's used a thread sealer. Take out the bolt, get someone to plug the hole while doing this, wrap it with a couple of turns of PTFE and re-insert. The extra thickness of the soft PTFE tape should plug the gap and stop the leak.

    Alternatively you can get silicone based leak sealants which set to plug the leak, you could apply this to the bolt thread - LS-X is a common product.
  • wallofbeans
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    Jonesya wrote: »
    You can pick-up PTFE tape from most DIY stores, it's used a thread sealer. Take out the bolt, get someone to plug the hole while doing this, wrap it with a couple of turns of PTFE and re-insert. The extra thickness of the soft PTFE tape should plug the gap and stop the leak.

    Alternatively you can get silicone based leak sealants which set to plug the leak, you could apply this to the bolt thread - LS-X is a common product.

    Great. Thanks for advice! Not sure about the silicone sealant though.. Would that mean I couldnt undo the bolt in future, should I need to?
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    Jonesya wrote: »
    You can pick-up PTFE tape from most DIY stores, it's used a thread sealer. Take out the bolt, get someone to plug the hole while doing this, wrap it with a couple of turns of PTFE and re-insert. The extra thickness of the soft PTFE tape should plug the gap and stop the leak.

    Alternatively you can get silicone based leak sealants which set to plug the leak, you could apply this to the bolt thread - LS-X is a common product.

    Its the bleed screw itself which is leaking from OPs description.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • Canucklehead
    Canucklehead Posts: 6,254 Forumite
    Hi,

    Do you mean one of these? http://www.store2go.net/shop/psw/p/product/0909112666-Radiator+Plug+%26+Vent+Kit/

    If you need to swap it then turn the valves of at each end first and let the pressure go with the vent .
    The 'o' ring is usually enough to seal the joint as long as surface of the rad is clean where it meets the 'o' ring.

    If the vent is just a small pin then you have a bigger problem.

    GSR.
    Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    As I'm sure you can tell from the thread title, I'm not any kind of expert in radiators!

    I've got this leak from the little bolt that you twist to let air or water out when bleeding them. They are quite old radiators. I've tried tighting the bolt more but it still leaks.

    Any advice on what to do next? I thougt there might be a few other things I could try to stop it before having to call a plumber!

    Thanks all!
    Replace the whole bleed valve. Neither PTFE nor silicone are going to help here for a permanent fix. You may be able to fix this yourself without a plumber depending on how confident you are.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • Jonesya
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    keystone wrote: »
    Replace the whole bleed valve. Neither PTFE nor silicone are going to help here for a permanent fix. You may be able to fix this yourself without a plumber depending on how confident you are.

    Cheers

    Not always an option - on some radiators the air-bleed valve is just a small bolt that fits into a threaded hole on the top end of the radiator. The only way you can change it is to replace the radiator.

    For the OP - if you try something like LS-X it doesn't set rock solid, it sets to a firm gel so you can always undo it later, clean, re-apply and re-make as necessary.
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    Jonesya wrote: »
    Not always an option - on some radiators the air-bleed valve is just a small bolt that fits into a threaded hole on the top end of the radiator. The only way you can change it is to replace the radiator.
    Agreed but the OP hasn't specified what he/she has. Answer to CH's question would help. However the balance of probablilty is that they are more likely to have they have the replaceable type of bleed valve than the more old fashioned rad you describe. If its like that anyway its prolly time to consider replacing the rad with a modern efficient one anyway.
    For the OP - if you try something like LS-X it doesn't set rock solid, it sets to a firm gel so you can always undo it later, clean, re-apply and re-make as necessary.
    That IMO would be a bodge.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • wallofbeans
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    Jonesya wrote: »
    Not always an option - on some radiators the air-bleed valve is just a small bolt that fits into a threaded hole on the top end of the radiator. The only way you can change it is to replace the radiator.

    It is exactly as you say, an older radiator with just a small bolt that fits in a threaded hole. The leak is coming out of the hole.. I assume the bolt isnt fitting like it used for some reason..

    Could I just replace the bolt?

    Getting new rad is last resort as we are looking to move after xmas and dont want to spend on that kind of thing unless we have to.
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    It is exactly as you say, an older radiator with just a small bolt that fits in a threaded hole. The leak is coming out of the hole.. I assume the bolt isnt fitting like it used for some reason.
    In that case I'll withdraw my previous comment.
    Could I just replace the bolt?
    Try the local scrappy - he's prolly gots loads of old rads sculling around and you may find one to match. Make sure its the same thread size though. If its a Myson Roundtop then the pin size IS smaller than average. In that case try ringing Myson in Newcastle and ask them to stick one in the post. Have you tried the bleed screw out of a new vent as I was assuming you had and CH linked to? Long shot but it might work.
    Getting new rad is last resort as we are looking to move after xmas and dont want to spend on that kind of thing unless we have to.
    In extremis go for the PTFE solution (rather than gumming the works up with LSX) then and pretend I didn't suggest it. :D

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
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