Car longevity-Mazda v BMW v VW

somech

buy what ever car suits your driving and like the look of
if you bought the mazda will you always be left wanting something else?

Inactive

No fun in sitting at the side of the road awaiting a breakdown truck in the car that you really wanted.

Why pay more for less .. buy the Mazda, have peace of mind.

Almost all German cars are over priced and over hyped.

thescouselander

I suspect non engine electrics probably means the air bag system - the front passenger occupancy sensor is a notorious fault on BMWs.

Inactive

thescouselander wrote: »

I suspect non engine electrics probably means the air bag system - the front passenger occupancy sensor is a notorious fault on BMWs.

As is the indicator switch it seems...:)

Strider590

Inactive wrote: »

As is the indicator switch it seems...:)

I thought they were on optional extra, as on Volvo's?

daveyjp

If you want a car to last you need something that is cheap to buy, cheap to fix and easy to work on. For those reasons alone you buy a Ford Focus.

thescouselander

Inactive wrote: »

As is the indicator switch it seems...:)

Possibly, I never tested the indicators on my BMW so I wouldn't know.

Shimrod

Yorky1 wrote: »

But a petrol engine won't do the mileage like a diesel will

How many miles are you planning on doing a year? I generally trade my car in at around 145-160,000 miles, and prior to my current car they have all been petrol. I've never traded in because of problems with the engine - it's all the other little things that start to fail or need replacement when a car gets to that age.

benham3160

Flying-High wrote: »

what baffles me... is with DMFs in a lot of cases Solid mass versions are available as replacements from LUK and the like.. ECPS usually list them if available.... But people stick another DMF in... priceless:rotfl:

And its possible in many cases to remove the DPF and deactivate its functions from the ECU.... Eliminating that problem aswell

Then suffer catastrophic clutch failures repeatedly. When you switch to 10 degrees of "damping" in a system designed for 100 degrees of damping, something has to give........ Normally engine mounts or the clutch.

Solid flywheel conversions are just as troublesome in the long run...... Not to mention often more expensive than a replacment DMF.

Was reading something in a trade magazine yesterday regarding this problem, it was agreed the most cost effective way is to stick a high quality replacement DMF in.

Regards,
Andy

Flying-High_2

I Slightly disagree......I'm not saying your completly wrong as the DMFs were developed to eliminate vibration etc. So vibration will be absorbed elsewhere i,e Drivetrain components....

But why "catastrophic clutch failures repeatedly" i.e 110Hdi engine... One in a Xsara non DMF and the other a 406 with a DMF. Yes Ones Pug ones a Citroen but same thing... Do Xsaras suffer catastrophic clutch failure repeatedly.... Same motor, difference being one is DMF'd one is isnt.

And why are manufacturers swapping dead DMFs to Singles?.... i.e VW Skoda etc...

As Ive said the DPFs can be eliminated... So no real end of the world stuff there. But do DMFs really warrant all the "Dont buy a Diesel"... "You'll be sorry when the DMF dies" etc replies to various threads.... I've already quoted what I could save fuel wise with my current commute... £1.5k a year with a Diesel over a Petrol.... So Even allowing for a DMF yearly and paying someone else to do the job...*that wouldn't happen btw*... I'd argue I'd have change.

And... theres a fair few clued up posters on here.....And many many many more that think they are... But does anyone have any views on what actually causes the death of a DMF... Seeing as timescales/mileages at which they die vary somewhat....