IB changes I live on my own very scared

cit_k

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

I have altered your statement to make it more accurate.

Nope, detected fraud is less than 0.5 percent.

The 0.5 percent is an estimate of actual fraud level, the detected fraud rate is much smaller than 0.5 percent.

cit_k

yankee77 wrote: »

I would appeal, though what would I have until appeal date assuming I have to appeal.

You can claim JSA, or it may still be possible to claim reduced rate income support (income support minus 20 percent).

If you get onto ESA, and appeal, you can continue to get ESA payments while you appeal.

andyandflo

cit_k wrote: »

You can claim JSA, or it may still be possible to claim reduced rate income support (income support minus 20 percent).

If you get onto ESA, and appeal, you can continue to get ESA payments while you appeal.

That is likely to change with the ESA/JSA amalgamation. Those that are in the Support Group of ESA will not be affected but will of course have regular DWP reviews, those in the Work Group will be treated as JSA claimants but with help given to get them back into work with consideration given to any limitations they have due to their health condition and those that fail will be put straight onto JSA and be treated as ordinary JSA claimants. The payment of the appeal rate only affects those that fail the medical currently, which will be replaced by JSA payments.

johnsmi

Just wondering will the government means test ib or esa so that its similar to the means test for income support and will it apply to existing people on ib?

john

andyandflo

johnsmi wrote: »

Just wondering will the government means test ib or esa so that its similar to the means test for income support and will it apply to existing people on ib?

john

As far as I was aware all of them are means tested in the same way as it is now.
But I may be wrong.

Victoriajayne

johnsmi wrote: »

Just wondering will the government means test ib or esa so that its similar to the means test for income support and will it apply to existing people on ib?

john

The existing ESA benefit is either contribution based or income related, along the same lines as entitlement to JSA - have a look at Volumes 8 and 9 of the DWP Decision Makers Guide if you want to know more. http://www.dwp.gov.uk/publications/specialist-guides/decision-makers-guide/#vol8
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/publications/specialist-guides/decision-makers-guide/#vol9

maureen_04

There is a set amount that you are allowed to live on, when accessing this all benefits, except DSA are included.

If you move from IB to JS then the balance will be made up by IS.

All that will happen is that the benefit will come from a different pot.

My concern is that people will not be advised correctly as to their entitlements.

For example if the Government says you need £200 pw to live on if your IB of say £90 pw reduces to £50 on JS the balance of £40 will be given as IS.

Being told you are fit for work, doesn't mean that you will be employed. An employer is unlikely to want someone who has a bad sick record. A relative of mine suffers with BI Polar they were told they were fit for work, it took them 15 months to get a job, the job lasted 5 weeks, they were dismissed for going sick on 3 occasions in 5 weeks.

So back to square one!!!!

Oldernotwiser

maureen_04 wrote: »

There is a set amount that you are allowed to live on, when accessing this all benefits, except DSA are included.

If you move from IB to JS then the balance will be made up by IS.

All that will happen is that the benefit will come from a different pot.

My concern is that people will not be advised correctly as to their entitlements.

For example if the Government says you need £200 pw to live on if your IB of say £90 pw reduces to £50 on JS the balance of £40 will be given as IS.

Being told you are fit for work, doesn't mean that you will be employed. An employer is unlikely to want someone who has a bad sick record. A relative of mine suffers with BI Polar they were told they were fit for work, it took them 15 months to get a job, the job lasted 5 weeks, they were dismissed for going sick on 3 occasions in 5 weeks.

So back to square one!!!!

You're repeating misinformation that was corrected on an earlier thread!

People who claim JSA do not get this topped up by IS - they receive £65 per week (plus HB/LHA/CTC) and nothing else, although those with mobility or care needs may receive DLA in addition.

ChishyChoshy

johnsmi wrote: »

Just wondering will the government means test ib or esa so that its similar to the means test for income support and will it apply to existing people on ib?

john

IB/SDA people should have transitional protection like people who were on sickness benefit/invalidity benefit before being put onto them in the 90s. So technically nothing much *should* change, but the government could change the rules but I'm not sure how it would legally stand up.

"All claims to incapacity benefits after 31 January 2011 will be treated as new Employment and Support Allowance claims. There will be no link to earlier claims for incapacity benefits"

Is coming in too, which means if you get a job and sign off IB you can't go back onto it.

maureen_04

I think you are incorrect, the person I mentioned was on JS allowance, and was receiving IS as well to make their money up to the legal amount that is stated is needed to live on. They live on their own with no dependants. So I suggest you check your information.