Can I start new job while on notice?

Jmck

Hello folks, I'm new to the forum.

I am pretty much certain to be made redundant on Friday and given a months notice. I don't think my employer will ask me to work the month as this is what they have done with other folk made redundant yesterday.

What I want to know is, can I start a new job within that four week notice period or do I have to wait until my current employer stop paying me?

I have the chance of another job - I'm going in to work with another employer on Friday morning to see if I fit in or not - and if these people offer me the job next week, when can I start?

Thanks.

SarEl

If you are on your notice, whether you are required to attend work or not, you are still wholly employed by your employer (and can be recalled to work, disciplined or dismissed!) - so you have to treat it as if you are actually in work. You might get away with starting another job, but you are taking a risk and only you can decide whether you want to or not. If you have been given redundancy notice however, and have another job to go to, you can give counter-notice to your employer and ask to be let go early to start the new job. If they agree then you won't be paid for any remaining notice period, but will get any redundancy pay owed - and can start a new job with a clear conscience.

Googlewhacker

BigFatMan wrote: »

Ofcourse you can.

If the employer does want you and so has given you your notice then f**k them, why should you give a toss about trying to help them make more money?


All you gotta do is phone in sick everyday to them, and do your new job instead.

Wow, great advice...not!

Also you wouldn't be able to phone in sick every day because after the 7th day you would need a Dr's note.

Gleeful

Googlewhacker wrote: »

Wow, great advice...not!

Also you wouldn't be able to phone in sick every day because after the 7th day you would need a Dr's note.

That poster has been PPR'd many times and is a troll. Previous usernames include Angel89 IIRC

SarEl

BigFatMan wrote: »

Ofcourse you can.

If the employer does want you and so has given you your notice then f**k them, why should you give a toss about trying to help them make more money?


All you gotta do is phone in sick everyday to them, and do your new job instead.

Yes, of course you can. Then you can be sued for fraud.

SevenOfNine

Ask your current employer for PILON, so you officially won't be expected to attend work during your notice period. Nothing to stop you starting the other job whenever you want then.

Alternatively, if the other job is definitely 'in the bag' with formal written offer and start date, just tell your current employer you'd rather not work your notice period and would like to be paid off immediately.

Jmck

Thanks for the replies folks.

Just one more question - if I don't get this new job and my current employer wants me to work the 4 weeks notice, do I have to? If they are wanting rid of me then I just want to go straight away, don't want to hang around for 4 weeks, I'd rather be using that time productively looking for work. So where would I stand on that? Can I just tell them I'm not going to work the 4 weeks and still expect to be payed?

I actually get on very well with my line manager and the HR manager so I think if I explained to them I don't want to work the notice then we'll be able to come to some kind of compromise, but just need to know where I stand if they do insist that I work it.

*Edit - I suppose SevenOfNine has already answered that question in a way by suggesting I ask for a PILON, but I I just want to know what I can do if they play hard ball with me and insist I work it.

Chinkle

Yes, you can be asked to work your notice.

The reason many employers don't is because they know the employee won't be very motivated and at worst they could be vindictive and deliberately sabotage work systems etc.

However, if they do make you work your notice and they have made you redundant they do have to be reasonable and give you time off for job hunting/going for interviews.

The proper way to deal with getting another job sooner than your notice period ends is to tell your employer and ask to be released earlier. Taking another job when you are still on notice and being paid by the former employer would be a risky strategy - although not sure whether in real terms it would be worth them pursuing you over this.

SarEl

BigFatMan wrote: »

:rotfl:

Some people life in some wierd kind of fantasy world where they think everything revolves around morals and legal action! :rotfl:


The employer honestly wont give a toss if the person they have basically sacked decides to take a few sickies during their final week of working there.
They would probably be extremely surprised if you didn't do that tbh.

So people trying to scaremonger you into believing that the company is going to hire and send spies to watch your house for the last few days to see if you are actually sick or not,
and then will spend 100s t thousands of pounds of their money trying to ''sue you'' for that,
are just talking total crap!

Really? Scaremongering? You are aware that declaring yourself sick involves claiming SSP which is a state benefit. Then going to start a new job whilst claiming a state benefit will show up on the state taxation system? So your employer won't need to sue you - the state will do it for them for benefit fraud. Get in the real world and stop telling people stuff that will land them in trouble. It is you that gives out total crap advice - but not you who will be taking the consequences when they land in the s!!t for following your advice.