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Child benefit to be scrapped for higher rate tax payers from 2013

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  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    Madmonk wrote: »
    Dear Carult - i don't know what planet you live on but a family bringing home £18.000 does not get all of it's rent paid or it's council tax, or any of the other things you quoted! I should know I'm in one of those families!! We pay all of our rent, council tax, dental,eye care, prescriptions etc.. The only thing we get is child tax credit, family allowance and thats it!! So may I suggest you get off your high horse and get your facts straight rather than peddling old wives tales!!

    MM

    What a load of rubbish - I have put my details into entitledto.com, and I certainly would get all of these paid - maybe you should see what you're 'entitled to' ;) - because you are certainly underclaiming.
  • AD9898_2
    AD9898_2 Posts: 527 Forumite
    The reason they've done it on personal income rather than household income is that it's easier to administer. The inland revenue already have the details of lower and higher rate payers and can adjust child benefit accordingly.

    It just gets more complicated when you start looking at household income, and we already know that governments in general need to make things as simple as they can otherwise they screw it up
    Have owned outright since Sept 2009, however I'm of the firm belief that high prices are a cancer on society, they have sucked money out of the economy, handing it to banks who've squandered it.
  • olly300
    olly300 Posts: 14,738 Forumite
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    The reason they are basing it on one persons income is becasue they don't want any stay at home parents anymore. They want BOTH parents working.

    Don't know where you are in the country but every single family I know has both parents working.

    Oddly enough even those who are rich and can afford to have the mother staying at home, the mother works.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

    (If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    chucky wrote: »
    please don't try and make this into a party political broadcast to try and distract the fact that this hasn't been handled very well by the Coalition government.

    Youre the one that said everybody would vote labour because on it. I believe you are wrong.
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    chucky wrote: »
    you can be as angry and as furious as you like but it really is quite simple - the family on £18k is much more in need of child benefit than those on single or a combined income of £50k.

    Totally agree - if that was all they got.


    But my point was that it isn't is it?

    And why should families where both parents work and earn £43,999 be entitled to child benefit, whilst the same family where one earns £44,000 and the other earns pin money, are entitled to nothing.

    Total mess.
  • olly300
    olly300 Posts: 14,738 Forumite
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    wouldn't that, in the first instance, simply boost unemployment figures?
    Nope.

    If you are a couple and one of you earns approx. over £94 per week (can't remember exact figure) you aren't entitled to receive unemployment benefit.

    You are allowed to receive other benefits if you have children.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

    (If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)
  • olly300
    olly300 Posts: 14,738 Forumite
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    carolt wrote: »
    Totally agree - if that was all they got.


    But my point was that it isn't is it?

    And why should families where both parents work and earn £43,999 be entitled to child benefit, whilst the same family where one earns £44,000 and the other earns pin money, are entitled to nothing.

    Total mess.

    The cut of point has to come somewhere.

    They have a choice of making the system complicated like Labour did with WTC or simple like child benefit now.

    They opted for the simple option as it's cheaper to administer.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

    (If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    edited 4 October 2010 at 10:28AM
    olly300 wrote: »
    Nope.

    If you are a couple and one of you earns approx. over £94 per week (can't remember exact figure) you aren't entitled to receive unemployment benefit.

    You are allowed to receive other benefits if you have children.


    Nevertheless the number of those unemployed (rather than economically inactive) would rise, surely? Rising unemployment figures are never a vote winner or morale booster. That's really what I was refering to.
  • Really2
    Really2 Posts: 12,397 Forumite
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    carolt wrote: »
    And why should families where both parents work and earn £43,999 be entitled to child benefit, whilst the same family where one earns £44,000 and the other earns pin money, are entitled to nothing.

    Total mess.

    If that was the case would you not ask for a £1 wage cut PA? If it meant that much to my staff I would do it.
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    drc wrote: »
    Not if you live in London :mad:.

    I have worked in London all my life and earn just over average wage and have lived a reasonable life.
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