third party says i am not allowed to sell MY item???

sunflower_2

hi there

i listed some film cells on ebay to raise some money and one of them has been removed. I received the following email:

Thank you for your recent auction-style listing on eBay. Unfortunately, we removed the following item(s):

LORD OF THE RINGS FILM CELL - THE TWO TOWERS LIMITED ED

The rights owner, Rye by Post Ltd, notified eBay that this listing violates intellectual property rights. When eBay receives a report of
this type of violation, we remove the listing to comply with the law.

The following information may help explain the reason for your listing(s) removal:

eBay members may not encourage or facilitate the infringement of copyrights, trade marks, or other intellectual property rights on eBay.

Paintings, sculptures, and other artwork are considered copyrighted material, and may not be reproduced without the permission of the copyright owner. Selling unauthorised copies of copyrighted material is both unlawful and against eBay policy.

The rights owner reported the following information:

We would like to let you know that we removed your listing:

because the intellectual property rights owner notified us, by a signed statement, that your listing or the item itself infringes their copyright, trademark, or other rights.

We encourage you to contact Rye by Post Ltd directly if you have any questions. You can send an email to:


I have never heard of Rye by Post Ltd? The item certainly wasnt purchased from them?

I really dont understand what rights they can have? Am I never allowed to sell this item?

I have emailed Rye by Post Ltd but they havent replied

frivolous_fay

It's a typically fuzzy email.

Looks to me like Rye by Post are abusing the VERO program.
They obviously don't like people competing with them.

Some VEROs don't allow people to re-sell their items... but it's not like film cells are an infinite resource.

http://www.ryebypost.com/csp/products/online/index.csp

edit: or maybe it IS an infinite resource.... 'film cell manufacturer'? !!!!!!?

brainwaster

If you search for Lord Of The Rings or Two Towers on thier site nothing is found

rose_sparky

Sorry to be thick, but what's a film cell?

frivolous_fay

Well, I THOUGHT a film cell was a piece of the original recording of the film.

They tend to frame them... obviously there is a finite supply, and each one is unique, so they're collectible.

That said, I've never known of a company that 'manufactures' them.


Examples here:

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=film+cell

movieman

obviously there is a finite supply

Why?

I'm not sure how the 'film cell' business works, but movie companies make more prints from a duplicate negative any time they need them. The only real limit to supply is the number they choose to print.

That said, I don't see how they can possibly stop you selling them on to someone else.

tinkerbell1978

way over my head dont get why yo u cant sell them on v.strange!

frivolous_fay

movieman wrote:

Why?

I'm not sure how the 'film cell' business works, but movie companies make more prints from a duplicate negative any time they need them. The only real limit to supply is the number they choose to print.

There I was thinking that if you bought a film cell, it WAS one of a kind. I remember when they chopped up The Wall and auctioned it off.

What's the point of buying a film cell if it's just a piece of celluloid from a reel from one of thousands of cinemas showing that film? What's collectable about that?

I have a Zatoichi film cell which came with the collector's edition DVD, and I really hope that's one of the good ones

dougk_2

I can sell you some unique film cells...... hang on i'll just get my negs out and I guarntee there will not be another copy in the world! What would you like a picture of a cat, dog, house.................

I have always thought these film cell things are a con!

culpepper

do these people perhaps own the right to the lord of the rings film cells?
They dont have to sell them themselves even, just have bought a license from whoever made the film . Then if someone sells a film cell, they would need to pay these people who now own the rights?
Or could they perhaps be connected to the tolkien family who probably still own the rights to the stories??

mad_bad_spender

if you bought it and didnt produce it or copy it then i dont see the problem. They cant stop you selling something you bought legit, it is like saying once you own it you cant sell it ever again.
Did you buy it from a legit place? Not that it will make a difference to ebay as if the person reports it again then it will just be cancelled again and you could end up in trouble with e-lawuntoitself-bay