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  • No.
    The fact that every note in circulation does not have an arbitrary quantity of a precious metal locked away somewhere to secure its value does not bother me unduly.

    I suppose that if it were the case I could take my money and leave the country. But the risk would be that as a society would over invest in gold and gold production.

    I think you are missing the point - money is in reality worthless and is only based upon confidence.

    Whether you money is backed by gold or indeed you use it to purchase an asset (revenue generating) potentially the least safe place for it is keeping it as savings in a bank.
  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    there have been several answers but two or three consistent ones....

    1. that they would change the note for coins
    2.that they would change the note for a note of the same value.
    3.or that they would change the note for notes of different values.

    why the difference of opinion? and who is right?
    Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron
  • I think you are missing the point - money is in reality worthless and is only based upon confidence.

    Whether you money is backed by gold or indeed you use it to purchase an asset (revenue generating) potentially the least safe place for it is keeping it as savings in a bank.

    Money isn't worthless. Or no more worthless than anything else. And whilst it may have value only based on confidence the same is true of gold.

    And in reality the bank is a safe to store money.
  • ninky wrote: »
    there have been several answers but two or three consistent ones....

    1. that they would change the note for coins
    2.that they would change the note for a note of the same value.
    3.or that they would change the note for notes of different values.

    why the difference of opinion? and who is right?

    All of the above.
  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    nicko33 wrote: »
    does the Bank of England have a FAQ page about banknotes which might be found by popular web searching sites?

    sort of peeters out after 1921;)
    http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/about/history.htm
    Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron
  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    Money isn't worthless. Or no more worthless than anything else. And whilst it may have value only based on confidence the same is true of gold.

    And in reality the bank is a safe to store money.

    actually i would argue it is more worthless than other things. for example human life. you can't actually buy another one so i'd say that is worth more than all the money in the world. no?
    Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron
  • Really2
    Really2 Posts: 12,397 Forumite
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    ninky wrote: »
    what would actually happen if you wandered into the bank of england with some bank notes

    Merv would do a lap dance, duration dependent on the notes used.

    He has got an elephant shaped thong should you require change. :) (mental picture, not a good one I admit)
  • ninky wrote: »
    there have been several answers but two or three consistent ones....

    1. that they would change the note for coins
    2.that they would change the note for a note of the same value.
    3.or that they would change the note for notes of different values.

    A bank note is a promissory note.

    They can only fulfill that promise by paying you the mentioned sum in Pounds Sterling.

    They cannot give you a note of the same value or notes of different value as you will STILL be left with a promissory note.

    The only way for the Bank to fulfill the promise is by issuing you with Pounds Sterling.

    You *will* be given coinage if you present the note for payment.
  • nicko33
    nicko33 Posts: 1,125 Forumite
    ninky wrote: »
    tut. must brush up your searching skills :p
    try http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/about/faqs.htm#2

    "Exchange into gold is no longer possible and Bank of England notes can only be exchanged for other Bank of England notes of the same face value."
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    ninky wrote: »
    :rotfl:are we all mad?

    I'm not. The Doctors gave me a certificate declaring me sane when I left the nice hospital.

    Money like any other asset is worth what someone else will give you for it. Lots of people in internet land will tell you that there is some intrinsic value to land or gold or silver or cigarettes or shells, all of which have been used as money down the ages. There isn't. Money is just a nice easy shorthand to allow people to exchange one thing for another easily.
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