Toyota Auris false claims

dgburgoyne

Has anyone had issues with fuel economy on the new Toyota Auris I purchase the hybrid model due to its claim of 75mpg but I have done 1500 miles with an average of 54mpg. Toyota claim that the 75mpg quoted was under test conditions. I dont beleive the car is capable of 75mpg. Can anyone advise.

rsykes2000

I didn't think anyone actually believed that the claimed mpg was actually achievable in real life ?
They will have documented proof that it under tight lab conditions can do that figure. There's no way the lawyers in Toyota will let them claim so otherwise.

fb1969

An EU Directive states the way that the fuel comnsumption figures are to be obtained, the details are here www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/information/fuel-consumption-testing-scheme.asp

The engine must have been run in, covered 1800 miles, and the entire test covers a total of 6.8 miles under laboratory conditions.

FWIW I look at the urban figure and hope to get that!

Pollycat

dgburgoyne wrote: »

Has anyone had issues with fuel economy on the new Toyota Auris I purchase the hybrid model due to its claim of 75mpg but I have done 1500 miles with an average of 54mpg. Toyota claim that the 75mpg quoted was under test conditions. I dont beleive the car is capable of 75mpg. Can anyone advise.

Saying 'I don't believe xxx' doesn't make Toyota's claim about the Auris mpg wrong.

What tangible proof do you have to the contrary?
Because as rsykes2000 says, Toyota will have their !!!!!! covered.

oldagetraveller

"disclaimer
1. The fuel consumption and CO

2 values are measured in a controlled environment, in accordance with the requirements of Directive 80/1268/EEC incl. its amendments, on a basic production
vehicle. For further information about the basic production vehicle, please contact your local PR-officer.
2. The fuel consumption and CO2 values of your vehicle may vary from those measured. Driving behaviour as well as other factors (such as road conditions, traffic, vehicle conditions, installed

equipment, load, number of passengers, ...) play a role in determining a car’s fuel consumption and CO2 emissions."

The above is from the "Prius" brochure, no doubt similar is in the Auris brochure too and probably in your driver's handbook? So yes their bums are well covered. I certainly don't believe the over hyped and optimistic figures published for these so called "green" cars. It's a big con.

Hintza

fb1969 wrote: »

FWIW I look at the urban figure and hope to get that!

And in our case that is only on a good day..

OP how long have you had the car? Wha sort of driving are you doing?

To give you an example:- If I don't use the car much and just run into town and back (e cold engine) I will get sub 20mpg. If I get on the motorway and drive sensibly I will get over 30mpg that is a more than a 50% increase in fuel consumption.

Always look at the urban figure and if you get more than that the you are doing pretty well.

moonrakerz

Should have read the Top Gear website:-

"Toyota promised us a big leap forward in the Auris. But Evel Knievel could leap further than this. And he’s dead."

Hintza

If you have bought it with the big wheels 17" then you also lose some mpg.

I found this comment on the auto express web site:-

The best way to get good fuel economy from the Toyota HSD system is NOT to drive like a granny. Accelerate reasonably briskly, then keep the speed constant - preferably using cruise control. Brisk (but not flat out) acceleration puts the engine in its most efficient power band, and constant speed after that avoids the creeping acceleration that really brings your average down. Plus, you don't annoy anyone this way.

Using battery power as much as you can is also not a good strategy. You only get back about 25% of the energy you put in, and a lot of this comes from the engine rather than the brakes.

I've done 50,000 Prius miles and the average MPG has not gone under 60 all summer so far, with about 80% 70mph motorway driving and the rest town driving. Usually down to 54 ish in the winter.

whatmichaelsays

The test for fuel economy figures is a standardised test and is not itself an issue with Toyota - every can sold in the UK is subject to exactly the same test with the same methodology.

The test itself is in no way representative of typical road use and it does not take into account the effect of non-standard options (alloy wheels, sunroof, air con, etc), weather, poor road conditions, congestion, etc. The figures themselves are therefore recommended as more of "comparison figure" rather than a figure that one would expect from such a car. It is highly likely that you would have the same problem with any car that claims economy of 75mpg.

Torby

Hintza wrote: »

And in our case that is only on a good day..

OP how long have you had the car? Wha sort of driving are you doing?

To give you an example:- If I don't use the car much and just run into town and back (e cold engine) I will get sub 20mpg. If I get on the motorway and drive sensibly I will get over 30mpg that is a more than a 50% increase in fuel consumption.

Always look at the urban figure and if you get more than that the you are doing pretty well.

blimey!...lol...what do you drive?

Freddie_Snowbits

The tests are conducted in controlled conditions, so that the ‘consumer’ can make an informed choice on the data.
If the manufacturer were able to conduct their own test, wildly varying claims would be abound, and this would be unhelpful.

I am sorry but this process is what is known as ‘standardisation’, which started a few years back when tram rails used to come in all degree of gauges and size. Same way as tonight when Betty serves my beer, the said will come in a pint glass and be thoroughly liquidated.