is having a generous welfare policy and high immigration compatible?

ninky_2

marklv wrote: »

You can't scrap all benefits you stupid pillock. Let's instead scrap all immigration - and start repatriation.

what do you do with people of mixed background? or where people are married to someone from overseas? and would you expect all brits overseas to move back here at the same time?

FTBFun

marklv wrote: »

You can't scrap all benefits you stupid pillock. Let's instead scrap all immigration - and start repatriation.

And then, with our rapidly aging population, who would pay for the pensions of the elderly?

I take it all those Brits living abroad will have to come back too.

ninky_2

btw marklv 1 in 10 children are from mixed race families and mixed race is projected to be the largest ethnic group in the UK within 25 years. :T http://www.afroromance.com/fyooz/study-interracial-relationships-causing-black-people-in-the-uk-to-disappear/

FTBFun

ninky wrote: »

btw marklv 1 in 10 children are from mixed race families and mixed race is projected to be the largest ethnic group in the UK within 25 years. :T http://www.afroromance.com/fyooz/study-interracial-relationships-causing-black-people-in-the-uk-to-disappear/

Mixed race is the ideal, as it helps dilute the genepool and reduces the chance of genetic birth defects.

Unfortunately some people, of all races, can't see it that way.

ninky_2

FTBFun wrote: »

Mixed race is the ideal, as it helps dilute the genepool and reduces the chance of genetic birth defects.

Unfortunately some people, of all races, can't see it that way.

really we're all already mixed race since our make up is from a variety of nomadic tribes coming together at some stage. there is only one race. the human race.

neverdespairgirl

ninky wrote: »

agreed you can acces the nhs but which other benefits?

i'd say that if you meet the criteria for indefinite leave to remain (employment is one of them from what i remember) you should of course have access to benefits the same as everyone else. after all, you've made a commitment to your new country of residence.

Can't remember, sorry. I'd have to look it up. ISTR that child benefit isn't one of the public funds, though, for the purposes of a spouse visa.

A spouse can access all benefits about 2 years after migrating. That's a lot less than in many other cases.

marklv

ninky wrote: »

what do you do with people of mixed background? or where people are married to someone from overseas? and would you expect all brits overseas to move back here at the same time?

Your questions clearly prove what a mess this country is in.

Anyway, I wouldn't send every single immigrant back and certainly not mixed people (unless they want to). What I would like to see is a big, big reduction in people of immigrant origin, especially of non-European background - simple as that. The intelligent and well educated can stay and be assimilated. What needs to be stopped is the stamping of British nationality on any foreigner that a British citizen marries - marrying a foreigner should instead lead to the loss of British citizenship for the British national. This is the key loophole that needs to be closed.

marklv

FTBFun wrote: »

And then, with our rapidly aging population, who would pay for the pensions of the elderly?

I take it all those Brits living abroad will have to come back too.

Something called tax needs to be used. And if the rich flee abroad to escape tax they should be brought back here, by force if necessary, and face the music. Tax evasion should have the death penalty and the loopholes allowing 'tax avoidance' must all be closed.

marklv

FTBFun wrote: »

Mixed race is the ideal, as it helps dilute the genepool and reduces the chance of genetic birth defects.

Unfortunately some people, of all races, can't see it that way.

Well, what about the Jews? They are a very inbred people from a genetic perspective. It doesn't make them unintelligent or uncivilised - quite the contrary, infact. Much the same could be said for the Japanese. However, if you look at a country like Brazil or India, with its multiplicity of castes and skin colours, you can see that there are huge differences of wealth and talent in the population. A homogenous population is intrinsically more stable and productive. A heterogenous population has the seeds of its own decay inside it - just look at the Roman Empire.

marklv

ninky wrote: »

really we're all already mixed race since our make up is from a variety of nomadic tribes coming together at some stage. there is only one race. the human race.

Humans are a species, not a race.