Tens of thousands face 'bully boy' investigations in new crackdown - The DM

bendix

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

The point I was making was how do we know there is any truth in you claiming there is a rumour, not what the alleged rumour is as you have not stated it due to a lack of a spine on your behalf, you could have been making it up for all any of us know.

I did not comment on anything else.

You appear to have misunderstood this.

LOL . . this is a very philosophical question.

If I claim there is a rumour, is that not a priori proof that there is in fact a rumour?

Doesn't the mere claim of a rumour (something nebulous, I agree) existing prove its existence?

Ive got a headache.

bendix

ninky wrote: »

the lib dems certainly seem to be lumping tax evasion and avoidance together......

danny alexander quote here...http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/sep/19/lib-dem-nick-clegg-tax

"There are some people who seem to believe that not paying their fair share of tax is a lifestyle choice that is socially acceptable. It is not," he said.
"Like the benefit cheat, their actions take resources from those who need them most."
He added: "Tax avoidance and evasion are unacceptable in the best of times but in today's circumstances it is morally indefensible."

well i'd say there is plenty in society that is perfectly legal but morally questionable (cheating on your spouse for example). however, for a senior politician to stand up and say that these activities make people no better than criminals is quite something.

also nick clegg here....

Speaking on the BBC's Andrew Marr Show earlier today, Nick Clegg rounded on Labour for not doing more to clamp down on tax loopholes that he described as "perfectly legal but morally questionable".

Does this mean that Mr Clegg will be forgoing the tax concessions on his pension?

What a vacuous idiot that man is. It's embarassing to see him propagate an idea he clearly doesn't believe in, simply to placate unthinking idiot members of his party at conference time.

How I miss conviction politicians with integrity like Thatcher or Benn who - agree with them or not - would never have stooped to such depths as Clegg as done with this.

Malcolm.

Had Tony Blair and Gordy stated they were pro invasion of other countries and would make a mess of the UK economy, I very much doubt Labour would have been elected. Kinnock arguable lost an election by admitting to tax rises.

Does honesty pay dividends in the world of politics?

bendix

Malcolm. wrote: »

Had Tony Blair and Gordy stated they were pro invasion of other countries and would make a mess of the UK economy, I very much doubt Labour would have been elected. Kinnock arguable lost an election by admitting to tax rises.

Does honesty pay dividends in the world of politics?

It did with Margaret Thatcher, the archetypal conviction politician.

Benn and Foot were politicians of the same ilk - completely honest to their convictions, irrespective of opinion polls - but obviously not so successful, at least from an electoral sense.

They put Clegg's spineless posturing in perspective.

Malcolm.

bendix wrote: »

It did with Margaret Thatcher, the archetypal conviction politician.

Benn and Foot were politicians of the same ilk - completely honest to their convictions, irrespective of opinion polls - but obviously not so successful, at least from an electoral sense.

They put Clegg's spineless posturing in perspective.

I think it's far more likely, going forward, that we (the UK) have politicians of the Tony Blair mould than that of Margaret Thatcher. The modern media encourages lying over honesty.

With time, we will see which of us is right.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

Yes, I regulary see you speaking out of yours.

There you go...


Flying about false accusations yet again in a vain attempt to satisfy your deep need for status on MSE.


I could tell you a lot about that but its probably best left to your own personal psychologist.

Whilst were are on the subject did you ring one of them doctors I gave you the numbers of?

If you point them in the direction of the bed wetting problem you [STRIKE]had[/STRIKE] have it might speed them up & save you a couple of grand.


I wouldn't of normally mentioned it but after all this is a money saving site.