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Allan87

Ok I'm not a regular Daily Mail reader but this article caught my eye on Google News this afternoon. Personally I don't want to eat meat prepared in this way and never considered it may have been when I'm eating out but after reading the article there appears no requirement for the restaurant to inform the customer. Are they obliged to tell me if I ask them, or if they don't know should they know? I can imagine it'd cause quite a fuss and probably does when the shoe is on the other foot with a Muslim demanding to know if the meat was prepared to their standards. I'm not attacking Muslims just interested in what rights, if any, any of us has to know where our food comes from.

Coopdivi

The reality is that all meat comes from live animals which are killed, often iin abattoirs. So when you buy animal meat from a restaurant or supermarket it was previously alive and kicking in a field somewhere. It doesn't matter whether the meat's Halal, organic, free range or whatever.

If you don't like the thought of eating meat I suggest you turn vegetarian

Here are some pictures from an American slaughterhouse. They are NSFW (not suitable for work) and should not be viewed by anyone who doesn't like the sight of blood.

http://www.exploreveg.org/issues/slaughterhouse/

Ivory_Tinkler

Coopdivi wrote: »

The reality is that all meat comes from live animals which are killed, often iin abattoirs. So when you buy animal meat from a restaurant or supermarket it was previously alive and kicking in a field somewhere. It doesn't matter whether the meat's Halal, organic, free range or whatever.

If you don't like the thought of eating meat I suggest you turn vegetarian

I don't think the OP is worried about eating meat, rather the way in which the animal has been killed. Posting links like the one you did (and I didn't click it) is irresponsible too, even with the warning you provided beforehand.

pcombo

I love any meat, But I would not eat it if i knew it had been brutally killed just for stupid islam laws and rituals.

Jeff_Bridges_hair

Allan87 wrote: »

Ok I'm not a regular Daily Mail reader but article caught my eye on Google News this afternoon. Personally I don't want to eat meat prepared in this way and never considered it may have been when I'm eating out but after reading the article there appears no requirement for the restaurant to inform the customer. Are they obliged to tell me if I ask them, or if they don't know should they know? I can imagine it'd cause quite a fuss and probably does when the shoe is on the other foot with a Muslim demanding to know if the meat was prepared to their standards. I'm not attacking Muslims just interested in what rights, if any, any of us has to know where our food comes from.

Yes our food comes from animals.. Now as highlighted very very late on in the article if you can bother to read that far is that a lot of the chicken served in some places is sourced from places like turkey which are predominantly Muslim countries so it is obvious that they will kill their meat in this way.

It may bother some people that they are killed in such a way but i don't see why they should advertise this as such - Its still meat to eat. It may surprise you to learn but not every Cow is killed first time with a bolt to the head - this also causes them suffering but they wont tell you that on the menu will they.


Mind its great that this is a story in the Daily Mail obviously to raise up yet more religious tensions just after the Popes visit.

cardinalbiggles

Ivory_Tinkler wrote: »

I don't think the OP is worried about eating meat, rather the way in which the animal has been killed. Posting links like the one you did (and I didn't click it) is irresponsible too, even with the warning you provided beforehand.

Why is it irresponsible, it's life, that's what happens and everyone should know about it to make informed decisions on what they eat.

What is it they say, ignorance is bliss...

I think most people put their heads in the sand when it comes to this, they don't want to think about where meat actually comes from and how animals are butchered to get the meat on their plates.

Allan87

Coopdivi wrote: »

If you don't like the thought of eating meat I suggest you turn vegetarian

If? Read my post again, didn't mention not liking meat, keyword in my post was how the meat is prepared.

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote: »

Yes our food comes from animals..

Of course, there's me thinking it just appeared on my plate, what was the point of that remark?

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote: »

Now as highlighted very very late on in the article if you can bother to read that far is that a lot of the chicken served in some places is sourced from places like turkey which are predominantly Muslim countries so it is obvious that they will kill their meat in this way.

As it happens I did read the article in its entirety but what purpose does that tone serve? Bad day at work and needed to vent some? I really don't know why people such as yourself bother to post as you offer no constructive input and seem hellbent on attacking the OP on things they never even said but rather on your own assumption of what we're thinking. As my last line concludes in my original post I asked about where our meat comes from - if they know it comes from Turkey then fine, I'd just rather have the informed choice.

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote: »

It may bother some people that they are killed in such a way but i don't see why they should advertise this as such - Its still meat to eat. It may surprise you to learn but not every Cow is killed first time with a bolt to the head - this also causes them suffering but they wont tell you that on the menu will they.

Fully aware of that, but again not at all what I originally asked.

dreamypuma

Would you be happy to pay a premium for non-halal meat?

bitsandpieces

Shops also don't need to tell customers is meat was killed using the halal method. Then again, no-one needs to tell customers if poultry was reared highly intensively, veal reared in crates, pork from pigs castrated without anaesthetic, etc. I wouldn't put halal slaughter high up the list in terms of welfare concerns.

I do eat meat, by the way, but try to eat meat raised with good welfare standards and pay a preium for it.

stephen77

dreamypuma wrote: »

Would you be happy to pay a premium for non-halal meat?

its normally the other way round and you pay a premium for halah meat.

Coopdivi

"If? Read my post again, didn't mention not liking meat, keyword in my post was how the meat is prepared."

The meat is prepared by killing animals. How else do you think it gets into the supermarkets? The beasts don't die a natural death you know.

I eat meat or fish most days of the week but having worked, briefly, in a chicken processing factory where 30,000 a day got slaughtered I'm under mo illusions about the suffering which those creatures went through. I still eat chicken though which probably makes me a hypocrite.

Anyway, pal I know which direction you want this thread to go in so this will be my last contribution.

I apologise if I've upset anybody with the link I've provided. I won't edit it but Board Guides are welcome to if they wish.