not guilty of benefit fraud but they still want the money

Morgan_Ree

teflon_pete wrote: »

that's always been my nickname - its been my gamertag on xbox live for 5 years!!

yes of course it has.........:cool:

teflon_pete

I guess I will have to tough it out in the appeal tribunal. I'm determined to win the war, not just the battle.

well thanks for the help people....

not.

marywooyeah

teflon_pete wrote: »

Me and my partner were accused by the LA and DWP as living together as a couple for over 4 years.

We denied this in an IUC, however we agreed that there was a much smaller period in which we had been living as a couple.

the judge ruled that the DWP and LA only had sufficient evidence to suggest we were living as a couple for about 5 months, so the overpayment is actually less than £2000 (after offsetting)

PLEASE DONT post about how I got away with fraud etc etc, I was proved not guilty, so that means no fraud took place. So all I;m asking for is info on how they can possibly have the front to ask for all that money back?!

I think perhaps you misunderstand what the Judge's verdict means. you were found not guilty of commiting benefit fraud for 4 years, it doesn't change the fact that you DID commit fraud for 5 months. as to be guilty of a crime you have to be proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt, as the DWP could only prove the 5 months in which you DID commit fraud, you were found not guilty of doing it for 4 years, which is what you were charged with. had you been charged with committing the fraud for the 5 month period, you would have been found guilty.
you are correct that the DWP cannot claim the £30,000 from you, but they are entitled to the under £2,000 which they will pursue you for.
you say you have set up a payment plan of £5 per week, just out of interest is that £5 coming out of your benefits? you know, the money you get to live on for free from the same department you defrauded?

Sambucus_Nigra

teflon_pete wrote: »

that's always been my nickname - its been my gamertag on xbox live for 5 years!!

As dmg said, do you have no self respect?

welshmoneylover

Wasn't that !!!!! guy also called Teflon Don?

Didn't they get him in the end and he went to clink?

teflon_pete

MArywoo, in case you missed my previous post where I said that the judge agreed no fraud had taken place.....

No fraud had taken place, it was a misunderstanding.

An overpayment occured, absolutely. which we admitted to at IUC - funny how no one wants to jump down the DWP's throat for not accepting my valid explanation in the IUC which was actually proved to be the truth - you guys arent bothered they wasted thousands taking me through a massive legal proceeding that I had to get legal aid for? not to mention court costs and their legal costs.

Doesnt that bother you that they didnt believe the truth the first time and save thousands of your hard earnt cash? As the solicitor at the IUC advised, no fraud had taken place however their was an overpayment as a result of a misunderstanding.

poet123

teflon_pete wrote: »

MArywoo, in case you missed my previous post where I said that the judge agreed no fraud had taken place.....

No fraud had taken place, it was a misunderstanding.

An overpayment occured, absolutely. which we admitted to at IUC - funny how no one wants to jump down the DWP's throat for not accepting my valid explanation in the IUC which was actually proved to be the truth - you guys arent bothered they wasted thousands taking me through a massive legal proceeding that I had to get legal aid for? not to mention court costs and their legal costs.

Doesnt that bother you that they didnt believe the truth the first time and save thousands of your hard earnt cash? As the solicitor at the IUC advised, no fraud had taken place however their was an overpayment as a result of a misunderstanding.

Sorry, could you expalin how a "misunderstanding" spanned five months?

*Kat*

How is there a misunderstanding informing the council that someone else moved into your house? It's not an overpayment, it was your responsibility to tell them that you had moved your girlfriend in, or whatever !!!!!!!! you were trying to pull. :money:

teflon_pete

I dont want to go into specific details of the case on this website as it could identify me and have a negative impact on my case, as I still have an appeal outstanding I'd rather share my full experiences once that is finalized.

Mips

teflon_pete wrote: »

wow didnt you read the last line I posted? - I was found not guilty of fraud. There was an overpayment, but no fraud.

wow, didn't ya know this is a site for helping those with benefits, and not those who commit fraud