Shabby Chic; Volume III

chalkysoil

no idea - I bought some but haven't used it yet.

emma_kate

steve_2012 wrote: »

i had an idea last night, well i had thought of before then but dismissed as you guys dont seem to do it.
on for example a dresser we tend too use annie sloans or farrow and ball paint, or maybe we would like too but cost restricts this.
so, we buy emulsion from wilcos or others.
we then add POP to make HMCP, then wax.
im wondering if this would achieve a very similar finish visually and for maintenance purposes.
buy soft cream matt from wilcos etc but also buy the same colour in silk or better still kitchen emulsion.
use 2 coats of HMCP then use either the silk/kitchen paint straight on top or add a smaller amount of POP to this paint especially with the kitchen paint.
then dont bother with the wax.
would this give the same ish finish as the normal method of 2 or 3 HMCP then wax.
many find the waxing a bit taxing "see what i did there":) so this would not only eliminate the wax but you would also get the colour you orignally selected.
this of course would probably need some modification but cant see why this wouldnt work.
on my initial test pieces i had and used silk HMCP plus wax, too be honest this has a better tougher finish than my newer projects.
your thoughts please.

Yes what you're saying is use the hmcp as a primer in effect and whatever you want on top. I do this. (You only need to use hmcp/cp on waxed pine. Nothing else.) I use it as a base coat, then use pure emulsion and wax as I like that look. If you like the look of silk or satin paint then yes go ahead. It might not be perfectly smooth as a primer but you can sand it.
I think the waxed paint gives a more oldy worldy shabby chic look but it's all down to personal preference.

emma_kate

Sorry, I don't know either Deborah. I've not used it.

steve_2012

emma_kate wrote: »

Yes what you're saying is use the hmcp as a primer in effect and whatever you want on top. I do this. (You only need to use hmcp/cp on waxed pine. Nothing else.) I use it as a base coat, then use pure emulsion and wax as I like that look. If you like the look of silk or satin paint then yes go ahead. It might not be perfectly smooth as a primer but you can sand it.
I think the waxed paint gives a more oldy worldy shabby chic look but it's all down to personal preference.

Emma,
are you saying that i dont need to use hmcp/cp on for example a old ish bureau that is in part veneered.
i could just use emulsion mat or silk or even kitchen emulsion which is a bit more durable.
all this without having to rub down.

emma_kate

I'd always sugar soap, and give a very light sand if it's shiny. A bit of primer helps the paint stick but you could try without if you like. (Sometimes I do.) It's not the proper way to do it and you might have problems.
But what I'm saying is waxed pine will be a problem without chalk paint and it's the ONLY thing I use it for as I'm not a fan.
As for your bureau, depends what wood and what stain is on it. If it's a mahogany or very old the colour can seep through chalk paint. Test a small area?

chalkysoil

talking of chalk painting waxed pine - last night I painted a stool that I use as a monitor stand, and being in a rush I gave it a coat of ascp - then when dry only painted over the knot stains with Blackfriars primer. This morning I gave it another coat of ascp. It dried all blotchy looking because the white primer was a much nicer base than the ascp over dark brown pine. I should have primed all of it as it needed a 3rd coat of ascp to look decent.

chalkysoil

also yesterday ( inspired by Emma K) I painted the legs of my kitchen table. I used ASCP Original, then Crown matt emulsion Cream. As it had once been varnished before being stripped and waxed, I chanced not priming the knots. So far it's ok. I'm trying to summon up the energy to do the waxing now

licklebabba

Hello all,hope you are all well, long time lurker here, love this thread & all the fab piccies you lot post up:) my question is this & may be a daft un! Does sugar soap 'go off'?

Thanks, Rach

steve_2012

licklebabba wrote: »

Hello all,hope you are all well, long time lurker here, love this thread & all the fab piccies you lot post up:) my question is this & may be a daft un! Does sugar soap 'go off'?

Thanks, Rach

only if you use it in cake mix
seriously though, i dont think it does.

hmo

hi all ive finally got around to painting one of the two chairs i posted ages ago, i did two coats of AS original and it looked fine but ive just applied the wax and i am not sure now.

if it doesnt look right can i give it another coat over the wax and the re wax again or is that a no no?

thanks