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  • shikoku wrote: »
    I always use 'Dear Sirs' I think it's totally generic rather than assuming the sex of the recipient, and 'Yours faithfully' of course.

    Have to confess I'd be a bit put off someone if I received this. To me it DOES assume the sex of the recipient. Obviously you think not so it's a matter of opinion, but I'd err on the side of caution and get the Madam in there too in case you're writing to someone like me. I do like the "Madam / Sir" suggestion ... that would pique my curiosity about a candidate.

    To the OP - one thing that could make your letter stand out is to call the company and ask who you should address it to. At worst they'll say "no-one in particular" but at best you get a name and you look that teensy bit better than the other candidates!
  • westv
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    Have to confess I'd be a bit put off someone if I received this. To me it DOES assume the sex of the recipient. Obviously you think not so it's a matter of opinion, but I'd err on the side of caution and get the Madam in there too in case you're writing to someone like me. I do like the "Madam / Sir" suggestion ... that would pique my curiosity about a candidate.

    With "Sirs" you are addressing your letter to the company and not to any one individual - male or female.
  • westv wrote: »
    With "Sirs" you are addressing your letter to the company and not to any one individual - male or female.

    That might be so but it's not generally known IME, and therefore could cause unintended offence. It's only a few more nano-seconds of typing to add in the madam and worth it to save offending rabid feminists like me :) Perhaps it's a generational thing, in that the generic meaning was more widely known previously?
  • That might be so but it's not generally known IME, and therefore could cause unintended offence. It's only a few more nano-seconds of typing to add in the madam and worth it to save offending rabid feminists like me :) Perhaps it's a generational thing, in that the generic meaning was more widely known previously?

    It was how I was taught to address things to a company or persons unknown while I was at school and I'm only 25, so I can't see it being a generational thing, unless my school was particularly unusual in its teaching.
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    scubaangel wrote: »
    It was how I was taught to address things to a company or persons unknown while I was at school and I'm only 25, so I can't see it being a generational thing, unless my school was particularly unusual in its teaching.
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  • Lil306
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    When I read it up if you don't know the name, it's suggest to use "Dear Hiring Manager" because Dear Sir/Madam suggests you haven't bothered researching the contact, where as Dear Hiring Manager is more generic and more specific
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  • lucylucky
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    Lil306 wrote: »
    When I read it up if you don't know the name, it's suggest to use "Dear Hiring Manager" because Dear Sir/Madam suggests you haven't bothered researching the contact, where as Dear Hiring Manager is more generic and more specific

    I would hate to have received a letter with "Dear Hiring Manager"

    Personally I think it sounds dreadful.

    Something cannot be generic and specific
  • westv
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    That might be so but it's not generally known IME, and therefore could cause unintended offence. It's only a few more nano-seconds of typing to add in the madam and worth it to save offending rabid feminists like me :) Perhaps it's a generational thing, in that the generic meaning was more widely known previously?
    scubaangel wrote: »
    It was how I was taught to address things to a company or persons unknown while I was at school and I'm only 25, so I can't see it being a generational thing, unless my school was particularly unusual in its teaching.
    juno wrote: »
    I'm younger than you and I knew it

    Perhaps when BexinLondon said generational maybe she meant that she thought she was older than everybody else, not younger. :D
  • Lil306
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    lucylucky wrote: »
    I would hate to have received a letter with "Dear Hiring Manager"

    Personally I think it sounds dreadful.

    Something cannot be generic and specific

    Sorry, that meant to say it's more specific to the person your applying to
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  • paulwf
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    If you actually write a covering letter you'd be doing better than 50% of the applicants I recently received. If you actually put a greeting, use correct spelling punctuation and grammar then use a closing you'd be doing better than 80% of applicants. If you managed to use "yours faithfully" in the correct context you'd be almost automatically guaranteed an interview :)

    I'm glad so many people on this thread give covering letters the respect they deserve!
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