17" TFT £130 and other bargains

Michael_5

Hello, I ordered the 17 inch monitor from aria and its great! It was delivered the next day and works fine. However, going off on a bit of a tangent, I wondered if anybody could help me with my massive old dell monitor. My 7 year old son asked if he could plug his playstation2 into it and use it for playing games. Any advice? Thanks

SineWaver

jansel wrote:

I totally agree - E-buyer site may be the cheapest, but they have non-existent after-sales service and if there are any problems with your order, you have to sing for your money or for remedy. ....... So BEWARE of ordering anything from E-buyer.

I'd normally agree with you, having been stung quite badly by dabs' returns policy I've vowed never to buy from them again. I did however, buy a very expensive camera from them before Christmas. When it went wrong, I followed their onsite instructions for sending it back, and within a couple of days a I had a replacement. They even send a courier to pick up the faulty camera so I didn't have to lay out on delivery. The one time I was worried about their service I sent them an "enote" and had a reply in mt mailbox before the end of the working day. They don't have a phone number and that's fine by me. I'm a better negotiator on the net than in real life and I hate waiting on the phone for hours to speak to a returns desk based in some out back country where English is a second language, like Wales.

Getting back on thread, the thing to weary about with TFT screen is the "dead pixel policy". Most shops stipulate that a TFT is only returnable if the number of dead pixels on the screen in greater than 6-8. A dead pixel shows up as a dot that will never turn black, or stays reg/green/blue or even, as a whole row of pixels (still counts as one, even though there's a line down your screen). The dead pixels thing can happen to your screen at any time. Aria actually have shoppers quotes and messages at the bottom of their item details screens. The cheap monitors all say things like, "I've got my screen, its great but there's a cluster of 4 dead pixels on it, can I have a replacement?" closely followed by "No."

Aria is a good site, I've bought from them before, but if you're paying penuts, expect monkeys.

On the flipside, Viewsonic and have a no-quibble (strange word that) garrantee against dead pixels, where if you find one, you'll get a completely new screen as a replacement. As such its almost impossible to find Viewsonics in the bargan bucket at Tescos but you'll know when you pay for one, you're getting quality.

I get the feeling I've already replied to this e-mail once. I seem to remember ranting about PC bargains before. Just do your homework on them, and you'll find true bargans but if it looks too good to be tue, it isn't.

Mattjimf

Michael wrote:

Hello, I ordered the 17 inch monitor from aria and its great! It was delivered the next day and works fine. However, going off on a bit of a tangent, I wondered if anybody could help me with my massive old dell monitor. My 7 year old son asked if he could plug his playstation2 into it and use it for playing games. Any advice? Thanks

You can do this, but you need to buy a vga-component adapter such as this
You can probably find it cheaper if you search, but this is the only one i've seen from a british site.

dfarry

I was playing around with Linux distributions last night....and being a complete Linux newbie I spent alot of time looking at black screens...

Where upon I noticed even more dead pixels...on my Digimate 1715.... ARGH!!!

Probably about 6 in total but these latest ones are very slight and with any kind of light or moving image are not recognisable....still pretty annoying though....

The really bright dead pixel that I originally had comes and goes but I am able to live with that.... overall still happy with the screen but I will be more choosy next time about going for a model with guaranteed no dead pixels.

Joe77

About dead pixels, as far as I'm concerned if a monitor comes with dead pixels it doesn't work and I should be able to get a refund or a replacement. Isn't it against consumer rights to say if it has dead pixels you can't get a refund or replacement, how do they get away with this?

dfarry

Well you can probably argue it...and maybe there is a legal issue here... but then they do state on their website... what the acceptable level of dead pixels is rated as being... based on some international standard or the other...

Other messages in this thread refer to this and I guess if your screen fell within this (and you had accepted the warning) you could be without any reasonable grounds to claim it is faulty.

I did read the warning/warranty/terms and though hmmm that could be a problem...but then I didn't think the issue of dead pixels would be such a widespread issue....

aliasojo

SineWaver wrote:

On the flipside, Viewsonic and have a no-quibble (strange word that) garrantee against dead pixels, where if you find one, you'll get a completely new screen as a replacement.

Can I ask where you got this info from please? It's not in line with what I was told.

I was told Viewsonic have a 2+2 policy, i.e. 2 dead and/or 2 stuck pixels is deemed to be acceptable.

I'm about to have 2 Viewsonic monitors delivered next week so it would be useful to know.

aliasojo

About to answer my own question here....I phoned Viewsonic who say that the model I have got on order can be immmediately swapped for a new one if there is one white or black pixel present.

However, if the pixel(s) are just stuck on red/green/blue then you can have 7 of these present, i.e they would swap if you had 8 or more. Viewsonic say that these stuck pixels only show up from time to time on certain backgrounds, which is why they don't allow an immediate replacement.

So I guess if anything is wrong, I'd be better hoping for one black or white one.

tree_2

same problem with aria. Great mp3 player but faulty. Can't get RMA number, then 5 weeks to get a replacement sent out.

niff_noff

It's been a while since anyone posted here so i thought a short update might be in order...
All 19" TFT, prices fully inc. of VAT & del.
dabsvalue (20ms, no DVI) for £170.99
aria/digimate (16ms with DVI) for £188.65
ebuyer (16ms with DVI) for £173.53

Any cheaper out there?