Refused JSA for non NI Contributions!! I was at Uni for 3 years!!!!

Sam____2

anewman wrote: »

Have you tried working tax credits? There's a website somewhere where you put all the details in and it says how much you'll get (if entitled).

I think the cut off for WTC for couples is £18k

Skibum

Ok thanks ill google it and see what comes up. Tried to get a graduate loan to clear my credit cards but as i dont have a full time job or job offer its not possibe. Thats another discussion though.

karenx

Skibum wrote: »

My point is that once i have a job i will contribute to this country for the next 50 years but im not supported for the few months im out on university whilst im searching, whether i have a partner or not should not even come into it. Its mearly the reason ive been refused! If people were looked at on an individual basis perhaps there wouldnt be so many claiming when they shouldnt. I was just wondering if anyone else has been in my situation and how they managed with no income and lots of bills!

So if your partner earned 100k a year you would still be expecting to get benefits to tide you over till you got a job yes?
You got turned down for contributions based as you didnt contribute in order to claim
And as your partner already works you got turned down for income based. Its the same with everybody else in the same situation so its not like they are singling you out. Get over it, nothing will change so no point still moaning about it. Have you tried mcds, tesco etc?

ninky_2

karenx wrote: »

So if your partner earned 100k a year you would still be expecting to get benefits to tide you over till you got a job yes?
You got turned down for contributions based as you didnt contribute in order to claim
And as your partner already works you got turned down for income based. Its the same with everybody else in the same situation so its not like they are singling you out. Get over it, nothing will change so no point still moaning about it. Have you tried mcds, tesco etc?

i doubt the OP would be finding a problem if the partner could actually provide support. the reality is the partner does not earn enough to do so. it's an anomoly of the benefits system and the OP is rightly aggrieved. agreed it is unlikely to change to help them in the short term. however, a bit of empathy for those who find themselves in difficulty might not go amiss. as the OP has stated, they have tried several avenues for employment.

Skibum

Thanks Karenx i was only asking for advice. Yes of course she would support and i wouldnt claim no because to be honest its a huge hassle. However she doesnt earn 100K she earns 18K which is hardly enough to pay her loan, rent, all bills and feed us both hence me asking advice. I dont feel singled out im very much aware that people are alot worse off then me however whist some people claim benefits with 15 kids and have all the latest mod cons in their house the rest of us struggle to get through the day!

anewman

ninky wrote: »

yes. this is one of the most unfair aspects of the benefits system imho. it assumes that because you cohabit with someone you must automatically be responsible for their financial welfare. such a moral obligation is something for individuals - not the state. not all relationships are the same.

ISTR the same is not true where two men (or two women) live together, and therefore the system is against Heterosexuality. I thought we were supposed to be beyond discrimination based on sexuality, but clearly not.

karenx wrote: »

Have you tried mcds, tesco etc?

Too old to be employed by McD's, they employ 16 year olds because they can get away with the lower minimum wage rate. One or two restaurants do employ older people or those with disabilities, but they are few and far between. Then you're getting into the if you don't mention the qualifications you have, you appear lazy - if you do, they just are not interested in employing you because you're "overqualified". Either way you can't win.

Skibum

ninky thank you for your support

ninky_2

anewman wrote: »

ISTR the same is not true where two men (or two women) live together, and therefore the system is against Heterosexuality. I thought we were supposed to be beyond discrimination based on sexuality, but clearly not.


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actually it is true if the benefits agency can prove cohabitation. however, due to the prejudices and social mores most people assume that two people of the same sex living together are friends or flatmates. strangely they don't expect friends to support each other simply because they live under the same roof....

anewman

ninky wrote: »

actually it is true if the benefits agency can prove cohabitation. however, due to the prejudices and social mores most people assume that two people of the same sex living together are friends or flatmates. strangely they don't expect friends to support each other simply because they live under the same roof....

Suppose it depends on their honesty then. It's easy enough to say "well I sleep on the sofa" and I doubt the BA would pursue it for fear of being considered discriminatory.

Skibum

So because ive been honest with my situation i have been refused! If i had moved it with my parents (who have more money then my girlfriend) i would of been fine, however because we want to start a life together i was totally honest and said we were living together. That was my first mistake!