Asylum & Immigration proof - but I'm British!!!

looby-loo_2

I've been teaching continually for 34 year, 22 years at the same school.

Last year was the first time in my career I was asked to take in my degree and teaching certificate - never before had I ever had to prove I had passed (though I expect they had contacted the uni for references years ago) I also had to take in other bits of ID, so did the head and she is older than me.

liney

LittleVoice wrote: »

Where on the UK Borders Agency does it say that if I don't have copies of documents proving the right to work of all my staff that I will be fined?

In fact, where in actual legislation does it say that I must retain these copies?

I know that there is a fine for employing people who do not the the right to work and that a defence would be to show the documents that had led me to believe they were indeed eligible. I'm not questioning that. I was questioning the statement
Originally Posted by LondonDiva
Failure to keep copies of proof that someone is eligible to work in the UK is actually civil offence, attracting a maximum £10,000 fine. ?

I'm prepared to believe that such a law exists but would appreciate being told where this is.

The fine is for employing illegal workers not for not keeping copies, however, if you are found to have an illegal working and you have established a defence by taking copies of the correct documents which later turn out to be fake you are unlikely to be fined. No documents means no defence, automatic fine.

Now the big problem is, if you only take copies of Non British people's documents you will breach racial discrimination laws for which the fines are unlimited.

Thus: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/employers/preventingillegalworking/complyingwiththelaw/

LittleVoice

liney wrote: »

The fine is for employing illegal workers not for not keeping copies,

I'm glad you agree that the statement by LondonDiva was incorrect.

bigjl

Sadly another example of tick box Britain.

But there are good reason to check things I suppose, such as fraud or bogus documents, qualifications and the like. It is possible for somebody to be employed for years on bogus certificates. Hence why long term employees like those above have been asked to provide certificates.

In these days of liability for the company if they employ illegal workers then I suppose it is inevitable that they will have to check those who are obviously born and bred UK citizens, since if they only chose to check those born outside of the EK/EU then a clever lawyer could possibly claim that such treatment was discriminatory.

Though I personally like the phrase, "Tick Box Britain", not sure if I just made that up or if I have heard it somewhere, but I like it.

liney

LittleVoice wrote: »

I'm glad you agree that the statement by LondonDiva was incorrect.

Why are you pushing on technicality?

Failing to keep copies of documents can open up the company to a 10k fine. Selectively taking copies of documents can open up the company to an unlimited fine. Anyone who fails to keep copies is foolhardy, or just pretty dim.

Skipping all the carp in the middle, saying that failing to keep copies will get you a fine is accurate enough in my opinion.