Support at university. Court not CSA.

MissMoneypenny

Blob wrote: »

Just remember the cut off time is age 19, after that then it would be up to the parent, but the QC is then an adult in the eyes of the Law and eveyone else.

It didn't use to be. All those I know who had court orders against the NRP for their chilldrens maintenance and had something like 'until they finished fulltime eductation' in the court order, meant until they finished their degree at university (even if they did a 6 year degree). It is the CSA who distinguished between education and advanced education.

Blob wrote: »

What one parent wants is not the question. If you were a family unit then it is a different question, but that is, as they say history!

A divorce shouldn't mean that you stop supporting your child until they are able to go out and earn for themselves: although sadly for some children (from what I read on this board) it does. Fortunately, I don't know anyone like that.

DUTR

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

It didn't use to be. All those I know who had court orders against the NRP for their chilldrens maintenance and had something like 'until they finished fulltime eductation' in the court order, meant until they finished their degree at university (even if they did a 6 year degree). It is the CSA who distinguished between education and advanced education.



A divorce shouldn't mean that you stop supporting your child until they are able to go out and earn for themselves: although sadly for some children (from what I read on this board) it does. Fortunately, I don't know anyone like that.

The time they are in their 20s though is taking the mickey somewhat though.

MissMoneypenny

DUTR wrote: »

The time they are in their 20s though is taking the mickey somewhat though.

How is it "taking the mickey somewhat" to support your own children until they finish their fulltime education? Why have children if you don't want to financially support them through their education? Undergrads take 3 years to get a degree (age 18 - 21): another year for a Masters or Post Grad: Doctors take 6(?) years.

Shermanator123

Well as a PWC when my daughter hopefully goes to Uni I hope shes not under the impression that I will stop supporting her financially or in any other way just because she turns 19!!! I was taught that having a child you took care of the from the cradle to the grave I could be wrong but I doubt it.

DUTR

Shermanator123 wrote: »

Well as a PWC when my daughter hopefully goes to Uni I hope shes not under the impression that I will stop supporting her financially or in any other way just because she turns 19!!! I was taught that having a child you took care of the from the cradle to the grave I could be wrong but I doubt it.

I understand, however as my parents are both still surviving, I would not expect them to have paid my mortgage etc for me, even after doing further education, we financed ourselves , in the long run it has paid off, to stand on our own feet and not have to depend on parents, even so, I would have discussed further education possibilities and not just expect them to finance it , also will the pupil not qualify for monies of their own?

Shermanator123

However, I did not say anything about paying their mortgage etc.... But of course if they were struggling I would like to think they could come to me for help. My pointis that they get the best support and encouragement when they are going through their education so this gives them the best oppurtunities later in life to get a decent job and pay their mortgage.

DUTR

Shermanator123 wrote: »

However, I did not say anything about paying their mortgage etc.... But of course if they were struggling I would like to think they could come to me for help. My pointis that they get the best support and encouragement when they are going through their education so this gives them the best oppurtunities later in life to get a decent job and pay their mortgage.

Yes, although it is about having the option to do so, not be obliged to do so, after all at time they are able to vote and visit public houses without the parents, those privilages are not available to a child.

Shermanator123

Maybe you could suggest a change to the law then

Duncombe

I have never had any experience with the CSA or Court Orders regarding maintenance payments...but it doesnt seem somewhat ridiculous that payments can be enforced until the 'child' finishes their degree. Go and ask any Uni student if they describe themselves as a 'child'.

There is a system in place to financially support higher education students - and they are expected to be able to pay this back from their future wages. The students grants/loans etc are worked on the income of resident parents - so not those paying maintenance. This is a huge loophole in the system IMO. I went to Uni (and lived) with a girl who's mother earned about £13k a year..so she got full loan/grant/bursary etc. It didnt take into account that her dad earned £100k+ a year and gave her £500 a week as 'spending money'. Needless to say she learned nothing about money and is now in a whole load of debt.
The majority of students struggle at Uni financially..thats just part of life. I agree that parental support should be voluntary at higher education level - not compulsary.

Juicyloo

Yes, I have a court order in place stating the same- we were married 23 years, and ex has to pay child maintenance for our youngest- now 17 and just about to start 2nd year of A-levels, she will then go on to uni, and he has to pay whilst she's is 'in full time education'- no time limit. He also has to pay me maintainence for life.

He does earn over 70k a year though, and lives with his Dad and brother.

Happy days- not