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joe134
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Hi, I am trying to clean up my daughters laptop, succesfully with Donnies help. She has Avira, but it had 15 infections, which malwarebytes found and removed. Would MSE be a better choice of AV? I know it,s subjective, used MSE myself, found it good, never had Avira.I use AVG, because it doesn,t interfere with Rapport, which daughter doesn,t use. Opinions much appreciated:beer:
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its always a difficult choice. in the last round of tests http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/ondret/avc_report25.pdf
Avira had a detection rate of 99.3%
whereas MSE had a detection rate of 96.3%
and AVG had a detection rate of 94.2%
when you consider there are millions of virus's about (the test in question tested just over 1.2 mil) that leaves a large amount of potential virus's which any virus scanner can miss (over 8000 for avira and over 44000 for MSE and over 69000 for AVG based on the test) which is why its always better to run Malwarebytes at least once every month,
no scanner is going to get 100% of all infections that is why its always better to have a mix of security precautions (my personal security precaution is to not use microsoft windows if at all possible and use Ubuntu but thats another discussion altogether) - the most important one of course is sensible browsingDrop a brand challenge
on a £100 shop you might on average get 70 items save
10p per product = £7 a week ~ £28 a month
20p per product = £14 a week ~ £56 a month
30p per product = £21 a week ~ £84 a month (or in other words one weeks shoping at the new price)0 -
She has Avira, but it had 15 infections
Do you mean Avira Antivir Personal AV or do you mean a rogue security programme that copies the Antivir name?
If it is the legitimate Antivir I don't understand how it had 15 infections unless it was downloaded from a dodgy site?
All I can say is that Avira AV is one of the best free ones out there, top 3 being Avira, Avast or MSE.0 -
Hi, Thanks for reply, guess I will leave it on then. :beer:its always a difficult choice. in the last round of tests http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/ondret/avc_report25.pdf
Avira had a detection rate of 99.3%
whereas MSE had a detection rate of 96.3%
and AVG had a detection rate of 94.2%
when you consider there are millions of virus's about (the test in question tested just over 1.2 mil) that leaves a large amount of potential virus's which any virus scanner can miss (over 8000 for avira and over 44000 for MSE and over 69000 for AVG based on the test) which is why its always better to run Malwarebytes at least once every month,
no scanner is going to get 100% of all infections that is why its always better to have a mix of security precautions (my personal security precaution is to not use microsoft windows if at all possible and use Ubuntu but thats another discussion altogether) - the most important one of course is sensible browsing0 -
Hi, It,s the free av. I don,t know how they got on, maybe they were downloaded from hookie site.I,ll, stick with it:beer:She has Avira, but it had 15 infections
Do you mean Avira Antivir Personal AV or do you mean a rogue security programme that copies the Antivir name?
If it is the legitimate Antivir I don't understand how it had 15 infections unless it was downloaded from a dodgy site?
All I can say is that Avira AV is one of the best free ones out there, top 3 being Avira, Avast or MSE.0 -
Sure it wasn't 15 malware infections?0
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its always a difficult choice. in the last round of tests http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/ondret/avc_report25.pdf
Avira had a detection rate of 99.3%
whereas MSE had a detection rate of 96.3%
and AVG had a detection rate of 94.2%
when you consider there are millions of virus's about (the test in question tested just over 1.2 mil) that leaves a large amount of potential virus's which any virus scanner can miss (over 8000 for avira and over 44000 for MSE and over 69000 for AVG based on the test) which is why its always better to run Malwarebytes at least once every month,
no scanner is going to get 100% of all infections that is why its always better to have a mix of security precautions (my personal security precaution is to not use microsoft windows if at all possible and use Ubuntu but thats another discussion altogether) - the most important one of course is sensible browsing
People keep quoting these av-comparitives tests and how Avira received a detection rate of 99.3% however these people should read what the report actually states!
The Avira version tested was Avira Antivirus Premium 9.0.0.457 NOT Avira AntiVir Personal Free antivirus version (Free of charge basic protection)
What detection rate would Avira Antivir free version have scored without the following Premium only features? Not 99.3%.
AntiPhishing protection against phishing
AntiVirProActiv detects unknown viruses by behavior
WebGuard protection against malicious websites
AntiDrive-by stops malware downloads while surfing
MailGuard scans incoming and outgoing emails
Avira comparison chart here:doh: Blue text on this forum usually signifies hyperlinks, so click on them!..:wall:0 -
People keep quoting these av-comparitives tests and how Avira received a detection rate of 99.3% however these people should read what the report actually states!
The Avira version tested was Avira Antivirus Premium 9.0.0.457 NOT Avira AntiVir Personal Free antivirus version (Free of charge basic protection)
What detection rate would Avira Antivir free version have scored without the following Premium only features? Not 99.3%.
AntiPhishing protection against phishing
AntiVirProActiv detects unknown viruses by behavior
WebGuard protection against malicious websites
AntiDrive-by stops malware downloads while surfing
MailGuard scans incoming and outgoing emails
Avira comparison chart here
and if you look at the test the ONLY extra in the premium version over the free which could have any possible effect on the test is the AntiVirProActiv since the test does not test phishing, does not test websites and does not check email scanning, it is a on demand scanner so is looking for the virus's already on the test system, so is more a test of the definitions and the scanning effectiveness of the programDrop a brand challenge
on a £100 shop you might on average get 70 items save
10p per product = £7 a week ~ £28 a month
20p per product = £14 a week ~ £56 a month
30p per product = £21 a week ~ £84 a month (or in other words one weeks shoping at the new price)0 -
and if you look at the test the ONLY extra in the premium version over the free which could have any possible effect on the test is the AntiVirProActiv since the test does not test phishing, does not test websites and does not check email scanning, it is a on demand scanner so is looking for the virus's already on the test system
You can believe want you want.:doh: Blue text on this forum usually signifies hyperlinks, so click on them!..:wall:0 -
You can believe want you want.
that is so very kind of you to allow me to do so.
yes i do not know exactly how much difference the free to premium version differences will make, however from my interpretations of the information available as stated above there is only one of the extra's you get in the premium version which i could see making any difference to the result of this specific test, and which i personally dont see making a massive difference.
dont get me wrong i am not saying MSE is a bad anti virus, in fact is is one of the 3 i recommend for people to use (Avira, Avast or MSE) and as stated no anti virus is perfect it is very much about making a choice based on the current information, which is the reason i also provide the link to the report so people can check the details out themselfDrop a brand challenge
on a £100 shop you might on average get 70 items save
10p per product = £7 a week ~ £28 a month
20p per product = £14 a week ~ £56 a month
30p per product = £21 a week ~ £84 a month (or in other words one weeks shoping at the new price)0 -
Hi, Thanks. Being as Malwarebytes detected them, and removed them, they more than likely were Malware.There were Trojans amongst them.Sure it wasn't 15 malware infections?
Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware 1.46
www.malwarebytes.org
Database version: 4563
Windows 6.0.6002 Service Pack 2
Internet Explorer 8.0.6001.18943
07/09/2010 21:10:53
mbam-log-2010-09-07 (21-10-53).txt
Scan type: Full scan (C:\|E:\|F:\|)
Objects scanned: 270106
Time elapsed: 1 hour(s), 3 minute(s), 48 second(s)
Memory Processes Infected: 1
Memory Modules Infected: 0
Registry Keys Infected: 2
Registry Values Infected: 1
Registry Data Items Infected: 0
Folders Infected: 0
Files Infected: 11
Memory Processes Infected:
C:\Users\Rose\AppData\Roaming\67E49E331C3E7BE91C39FE7C79763D77\mediafix70700en02.exe (Trojan.Agent.Gen) -> Unloaded process successfully.
Memory Modules Infected:
(No malicious items detected)
Registry Keys Infected:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Antimalware Doctor Inc (Rogue.AntimalwareDoctor) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Antimalware Doctor (Rogue.AntimalwareDoctor) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully.
Registry Values Infected:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\mediafix70700en02.exe (Trojan.Agent.Gen) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully.
Registry Data Items Infected:
(No malicious items detected)
Folders Infected:
(No malicious items detected)
Files Infected:
C:\Users\Rose\AppData\Roaming\67E49E331C3E7BE91C39FE7C79763D77\mediafix70700en02.exe (Trojan.Agent.Gen) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully.
C:\Users\Rose\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\CHYPPEUD\mediafix70700en02[2].exe (Trojan.Agent.Gen) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully.
C:\Users\Rose\AppData\Local\Windows\winhelp.exe (Trojan.Bamital.Gen) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully.
C:\Users\Rose\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Templates\memory.tmp (Trojan.Bamital.Gen) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully.
C:\Users\Rose\AppData\Roaming\avdrn.dat (Malware.Trace) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully.
C:\Users\Rose\Desktop\Antimalware Doctor.lnk (Rogue.AntimalwareDoctor) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully.
C:\Users\Rose\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\Antimalware Doctor.lnk (Rogue.AntimalwareDoctor) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully.
C:\Users\Rose\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Antimalware Doctor.lnk (Rogue.AntimalwareDoctor) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully.
C:\Users\Rose\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\Antimalware Doctor.lnk (Rogue.AntiMalwareDoctor) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully.
C:\Users\Rose\Local Settings\Application Data\Windows Server\admin.txt (Malware.Trace) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully.
C:\Users\Rose\Templates\memory.tmp (Trojan.Agent) -> Quarantined and deleted successfully.
There ,s what was found. The Malware doctor was requesting £30+ to remove infections it said it had found, thatswhen daughter passed it to me.She only had Avira free on, so I put Malwarebytes, Spybot, which picked up a Trojan also, it,s clean now.???0
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