Changes to Housing benefit how much will rents fall?

ukcarper

olly300 wrote: »

Would you like to live in a high rise further away from your work?

No how do reach that conclusion from what I have posted

I’ve been arguing all along you need some kind of help to enable low paid workers to live in London.

olly300

ukcarper wrote: »

No how do reach that conclusion from what I have posted

I haven't reached any conclusion from what you post.

I'm a London born and bred with friends, family and acquaintances who live in different parts of London who talk to me about their housing problems so I'm acutely aware of what housing is available that hasn't been sold under Right-to-Buy.

ukcarper wrote: »

I’ve been arguing all along you need some kind of help to enable low paid workers to live in London.

Lots of London boroughs are building new HA properties. Unfortunately they all seem to be flats with one or two bedrooms. In addition some of them have parking restrictions and as quite a lot of low paid workers have trade vans they need to park, it causes problems.

ukcarper

What do you think the solution is. It would be nice if there was more Social housing in London suitable for families but I can't see the councils building them. The only solution I can see at the moment is LHA which is far from ideal.

olly300

ukcarper wrote: »

What do you think the solution is.

We both know what the solution is - building of more properties that are a decent size for families.

Most new build two bedrooms are two bedrooms in my book.

ukcarper wrote: »

It would be nice if there was more Social housing in London suitable for families but I can't see the councils building them.

They can't afford to. Until very recently they got penalised by the government for building new council properties plus they have the issue of land prices and local residents fighting against planning permission.

ukcarper wrote: »

The only solution I can see at the moment is LHA which is far from ideal.

Yep. It's not ideal but people need to be housed. Though no one should be in a 7 bedroom mansion. If you can't fit into a 3 double bedroom property where ever you are in the UK then it should be tough the government is not paying for it. It's not against Human Rights for your 12 daughter year old to have to share with your 18 year old daughter as your 18 year old can move out.

ukcarper

olly300 wrote: »

We both know what the solution is - building of more properties that are a decent size for families.

Most new build two bedrooms are two bedrooms in my book.


They can't afford to. Until very recently they got penalised by the government for building new council properties plus they have the issue of land prices and local residents fighting against planning permission.



Yep. It's not ideal but people need to be housed. Though no one should be in a 7 bedroom mansion. If you can't fit into a 3 double bedroom property where ever you are in the UK then it should be tough the government is not paying for it. It's not against Human Rights for your 12 daughter year old to have to share with your 18 year old daughter as your 18 year old can move out.

Yes that sounds about right to me.

Silverbull

I can not think of a solution.

The gov needs to cut back everywhere, especially the housing benefit bomb needs to be cut back before it explodes.

Moving people away from London is more important than unemployment rising.

They can not afford to keep paying the high London rents for those on small incomes.

ukcarper

Silverbull wrote: »

I can not think of a solution.

The gov needs to cut back everywhere, especially the housing benefit bomb needs to be cut back before it explodes.

Moving people away from London is more important than unemployment rising.

They can not afford to keep paying the high London rents for those on small incomes.

so who will do all the low paid jobs

drc

What they should be doing is investing in industries that are not London based. There is a problem which seems almost unique to the UK which is that London is the epicentre of major employment. This causes untold problems and exacerbates the north/south divide. Other countries such as Germany and France seem to have several cities that are important and centres of business and employment, not just one so that employment does not congregate in one specific city to the detriment of the rest of the country.

In my opinion if the government was to invest in building companies and encouraging employment in the north then that would take a lot of pressure off of London and the SouthEast and regenerate the north. It would also solve a lot of the problems with London prices and balance things out far more. What we need is a reduction in the financial services "industry" and a return to proper industry - manufacturing, mining, basically making things, not just selling people lifestyle choices. Otherwise the UK is in for a lot of problems.

Silverbull

ukcarper wrote: »

so who will do all the low paid jobs

I dont know, I havent got the answers.

How do you think min wage workers can live near enough to London to do these jobs? Either rents come down in the city or they travel for hours to earn min wage.

The gov can not afford to keep paying these high rents with housing benefit, that much is clear.

MissMoneypenny

drc wrote: »

In my opinion if the government was to invest in building companies and encouraging employment in the north then that would take a lot of pressure off of London and the SouthEast and regenerate the north.

They have done that before (and still do it) and it doesn't work. A lot of key employees refuse to move to the north or stay in the north: when the government subsidies finish, the firms move back to the south.