Called in for disciplinary

chuckley

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Actually they can: some employers insist on evidence like an appointment card if they don't believe you! And they can still refuse permission to take the time off, even if it is for a medical appointment! That may not be 'reasonable', but it does happen.

any1 can fake an appointment card. what are employers going to do with the card?! look up ur NHS number and try to get to your records?! phone the surgery and check? or better still, ask them what the appointment is for?

or what about mornings when you have to take an emergency trip before going to work?! are they gonna discipline you when you get back?

Get real.

Savvy_Sue

chuckley wrote: »

any1 can fake an appointment card. what are employers going to do with the card?! look up ur NHS number and try to get to your records?! phone the surgery and check? or better still, ask them what the appointment is for?

Some employers have been known to do any or all of the above.

chuckley wrote: »

or what about mornings when you have to take an emergency trip before going to work?! are they gonna discipline you when you get back?

Ditto.

chuckley wrote: »

Get real.

Fortunately I work for a reasonable employer, with reasonable colleagues, so we don't have to lie about these things (although I don't think any of my colleagues WOULD lie!) However your strategy leads deeper and deeper into a web: if it's a one-off you may not be tripped up, but if you're regularly having to do this it could get tricky!

caz2703

When I joined my previous company one of my colleagues used to work for a large pharmaceutical company. He'd been there for something like 15+ years but he'd finally had enough. There were many things he personally didn't like about his job but one of the things that took the biscuit was the big boss man sending staff out to check to see whether colleagues who had called in sick were actually at home or if someone had time off for an appointment he would call around to check if it was legit.

None of my previous employers have done this thankfully but you never can tell. I couldn't possibly advocate pulling a sickie for an interview but if you are, chose something that won't require any medical proof such as the aul V&D excuse and as said before, make it look legit by taking a day off either side but be warned, this will now appear on your employee record and may affect a new job!!! It's a real catch 22 eh?

Nine_Lives

caz2703 wrote: »

When I joined my previous company one of my colleagues used to work for a large pharmaceutical company. He'd been there for something like 15+ years but he'd finally had enough. There were many things he personally didn't like about his job but one of the things that took the biscuit was the big boss man sending staff out to check to see whether colleagues who had called in sick were actually at home or if someone had time off for an appointment he would call around to check if it was legit.

My employer has done this before.

I worked with a lad who called in sick. Next minute, the boss man has ordered one of his managers to drive round to this guys house & sit outside his house for a bit to see if he leaves.

As it was, the bloke was genuinely ill & stayed in all day, but that's not the point.

Roobarb_73

they don't need to "Prove you weren't sick". all you need to proceed in employment law is reasonable belief, and given you lied about the reason you wanted the annual leave in the first case, and then pulled a sickie, they *might* just decide they have a reasonable belief it's all too much of a coincidence and you were at it.

What I really can't believe is that you indulge in this carry on and then somehow imagine you're the victim...

chuckley

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Some employers have been known to do any or all of the above.

well doesnt that open up a whole legal issue.

medical records cant be discussed with outside people unless permission has been given by the patient. employers have no right to ur NHS number and records outside of a medical assessment im guessing!? so they are in a LEGAL right to call up ur doctors and discuss the summary of ur appointment pretending to b u?! NEVER.

if an employer did this, they would have a large case on their hands for their deception, and illegal activities.

on what grounds can they demand this info from you anyway?! would it be in a contract?! no, of course not.

i had a boss that demanded to know what my hospital and doctor appointments were for. they didnt get far once i made an official complaint.

dark_lady

Nine years ago when i was working nights at a sex chatline office i couldnt go in for my shift because my husband was rushed to hospital so i went in the ambulance with him.I made a quick phone call to the office from my mobile.
Later while i was waiting in the casualty waiting room i was called over to their reception desk to take a call from someone at the office. They were ringing up the hospital to check that I was where i said i was. The receptionist at the hospital was not happy. Neither was i considering i had my husband to worry about at the time but the job was quite well paid and they had taken me straight from the dole queue which got me out of the horrible New Deal so i decided to put up and shut up!