Neighbours and right of access

googler

slopemaster wrote: »

And yes you are right, a chain rather than a gate, would not be expensive and would stop vehicles (and bins!) if not people. Would need posts I think as I would not want to fix it to their house.

Now you've really confused me, as I thought the good neighbour was in the end house of the next terrace, and the bad neighbour was in the mid-terrace next to you.

References to Left and Right - is this when you're facing to the front of the houses, or looking out from them???

chris_m

As I understand it facing - so you have good neighbour, OP, gap, bad neighbour.

aliasojo

slopemaster wrote: »

First they dumped a pile of gravel they cleared out from their land drains there, so I went and tried to explain it was my parking space, so they should at least spread it out flat, which they did.

Then they started parking a car there, so I went and explained that I might need the space. The son tried to say would it be alright if this or if that, but I persevered that it wasn’t (there’s definitely not room for an extra car) and in the end he agreed they wouldn’t park there any more, and they haven’t. But the latest thing is, their 3 big bins have appeared there! I look out on this space from my kitchen window, so I really don’t want them there.

I get the feeling that what is behind the problems is that these people think it is a public space and that I am just ‘being funny’ like those people who think you shouldn’t park in front of their house. But it’s not the same situation. I own this bit, it’s effectively part of my garden; it’s just that I can’t fence it off because my other neighbour has a right of access over it.

So, any advice please?

It seems to me you have been too amenable and yes, I suspect they do think you are just 'being funny' because you haven't exactly been clear (imo).

If someone dumped gravel from their land drains on my land I wouldn't be going round asking them to at least spread it out. I'd be pointing out that area is private property and they (or their stuff) cannot be there .....at all. No room for misunderstanding there. You have made excuses why they can't do what they want....can't park there because there's no room for 2 cars, can't put gravel there because you need to park etc. They probably just dont get that this land belongs to you and I wouldn't be surprised if they do just think you're being awkward.

Time to go round and be clearer imo.

slopemaster

googler wrote: »

Now you've really confused me, as I thought the good neighbour was in the end house of the next terrace, and the bad neighbour was in the mid-terrace next to you.

References to Left and Right - is this when you're facing to the front of the houses, or looking out from them???

Sorry, it IS confusing.
L and R when facing front of house.
Neighbour with right of access is attached to me on the left.
Neighbour taking the P is in the end house of the other terrace.

Just going round there now with plan with red lines on it, so wish me luck...

slopemaster

chris_m wrote: »

As I understand it facing - so you have good neighbour, OP, gap, bad neighbour.

That's it, yes

slopemaster

aliasojo wrote: »

They probably just dont get that this land belongs to you and I wouldn't be surprised if they do just think you're being awkward.
Time to go round and be clearer imo.

You're probably right.
OK, off I go.

puddy

shame you cant use that online translator (its not always accurate, sometimes comically so) but if you put in very basic 'you cannot use this area, it is not a public area' i suspect it would translate that quite well

slopemaster

puddy wrote: »

shame you cant use that online translator (its not always accurate, sometimes comically so) but if you put in very basic 'you cannot use this area, it is not a public area' i suspect it would translate that quite well

I don't think it does Uzbek!

OK, well, they tried to argue with me, so they obviously DID think it was public land.
I pointed at my plan a lot, and I got a bit annoyed, which was probably all to the good because now they really can't be genuinely mistaken any more.
They did say they would move the bins but haven't actually done it yet.

I think I probably do need to go round to the letting agent next week.
I'm going away for a couple of days this arvo, but if the bins are still there when I get back I'll be moving them myself and sticking them in front of their front door.

mrcol1000

I guess if you see it from their view point its a bit of empty land not being used. You should really gate it off. I know you really shouldn't have to but thats life. I would get the map showing the boundary from Land Registry and send it to the letting agent with a covering letter.
As for the bins or anything else they might put there as its your land you can legally remove it from the land as long as you don't damage it. As the bins I am guessing are council property you can drag them onto the street or onto public land.