Noisy neighbours/help!

kiwi07

I bought my 2-bedroom flat last August. It's 1 st floor flat. I was so happy to buy this flat in the nice decent area! I've thought I secured myself nice peaceful living. I was so wrong!! Everything was ok until 3 month ago new tenants moved in the flat above me and they are horrible. They are the tenants from the Council.
I was unable to sleep in the first 2 months simply because they were partying until 5 o'clock in the morning, swearing, jumping. One night I also heard as their completely drunk friends were having sex downstairs just outside of my flat. I had to get up at 7 to go to work!!! Who are they? She is 20 years old, he is much older, I'd say 30 ish, they have got 2 years old boy. They are very vulgar, rude and noisy people. She looks very agressive and angry and shouts at the child all the time. I see a lot of young guys are visiting them on regular basis. I live on my own and I couldn't complain directly (for my own safety) so I wrote a complain to the Management Company. Last week the Company Representative came to see them and found out that they have got a wooden floor. Next day I have received a letter from them saying that someone complained and they do nothing wrong, she is pregnant, her partner is working until 9pm, they have got 2 years old lively boy, they are in bed by 10 pm. I didn't response to this letter and showed it to the Management Company. They were very encouraged by this letter and by the fact she is pregnant and wrote a letter to their landlady asking to cover the floor.
Last friday they were having some visitors the company of 4 guys on motorbikes. They banged on my door while passing my flat. I found it very disturbing and was not able to sleep in that night. Obviously they have started harassing me.
I wrote a letter to the Management company and asking them to take the things further but they asked me to keep the noise diary and report it to the council when the noise gets unacceptably loud. They suggest me going and talking to the tenants directly. I do not know how to protect myself. I don't feel safe at my own home!!!

Svenena

oki1875 wrote: »

they asked me to keep the noise diary and report it to the council when the noise gets unacceptably loud

This is what you should do.

Kyrae

I'd say definitely don't try and talk to the neighbours, stay anonymous with your complaints. If they found out it was you complaining about them, then they sound like the sort of people who might cause even more trouble for you! It must be terrible for you, and I think it's horrible that more isn't done by the council to stop situations like this. Unfortunately your best set is probably to do as they said and keep a noise diary, this website might help too: http://www.nfh.org.uk/

mostlycheerful

Gawd, that’s terrible, I’m really sorry to hear about this.

“I see a lot of young guys are visiting them on regular basis.”

Could just be friends but could be drug dealing, flogging stolen property or even prostitution or all three, who knows. If any of the latter then, well, that’s pretty serious. Unfortunately there’s little or no rule of law in UK and the authorities rarely do anything about this kind of stuff till after someone’s been murdered or badly injured, as is frequently reported in media. You’re acutely vulnerable and thugs nearly always win in situations like this so in your position I’d move out fast before they break in and beat you up or beat you up on the street or burgle you or persecute you in all sorts of horrible ways. The banging on the door is a very bad sign, that happened to a friend of mine years ago but he was young and fairly scary and full of himself so he responded by grabbing the next person who did it and holding a knife at his neck and threatened to slice him up if he dared do it again and so word went round that he was a psycho and not to mess with him, but, of course, that’s extremely dangerous illegal behaviour and could have gone badly wrong and that’s not at all doable for you.

Yeah, I’m sorry to say this but, as you know and realise, you’re totally vulnerable and so your only option is to make yourself scarce, fast, you can’t win this at all, it’s on top and the evil people are on to you and it’s only going to get worse from here on in so get out before they get you and before your health suffers any more from the acute stress, terror and lack of sleep.

If for some reason the authorities do actually turf them out, well, that’s actually no solution or use for you as you’re now already in their sights so you can probably very much expect some extremely nasty retribution and revenge from them and their cronies. I’m sorry to panic you but that is the reality of this kind of situation and it happens a lot, everywhere all over the country and there have been some tragic cases reported in the media.

You can’t defend yourself, well, unless you’ve got a good local team of big hard men who you can get to come round regularly and have it out with the wrong’uns and teach them some manners the hard way and drive them out. But of course that’s actually illegal. And very dangerous. And, even so, do you really want to sit in the middle of an urban pitched battle and be responsible for initiating an illegal response at your end? Of course not. Even if you get your own team together they can’t be there all the time, can they, and as soon as they go and any time you want to go out on the street to the shops or to work etc you’re vulnerable to attack again, aren’t you. Plus defending yourself and fighting off thugs is actually mostly illegal in England and whereas in America, for instance, in most states you’re legally allowed to shoot people when they break into your house, in England you mostly simply get arrested if you defend yourself. And a lot of thugs are vicious and evil and quite often enjoy bullying and terrorising victims.

Yeah, I think you should leave right now, in a hurry, and don’t leave anything of value in the flat. You’ll be very relieved once you get out to somewhere safe. Perhaps if you tell us what area you’re in some other MSE people may be keen to come round and help you move out safely. And try and rustle up at least two or three big blokes to help you if you can, or just a taxi driver or man with a van is better than nothing, as you don’t want any nasty incidents while you’re vulnerable going in and out of your place carrying your possessions out.

Yeah, my heart really goes out to you, this is a truly awful experience. I’m really sorry that the subhuman savage end of humanity is so sick and evil. I’m not exaggerating the danger and the fact that it normally escalates and gets a whole lot worse but if despite what I say you decide to sit it out and fight your corner, well, good luck and let us know how you get on.

ILW

Think you may be going a little over the top there.

PasturesNew

After reading #4, I'm now scared too

Mum_of_3_3

If they are tenants can you complain to the owner of the flat? Maybe talk to a few other occupiers and see if they are having the same problem then you could write a joint letter which may carry more weight.

I wish you all the best and I hope they move on very soon.

M_o_3

PS You say they have a child if you feel that he is being neglected in any way or you are worried about him then please call the NSPCC on 0808 800 5000

BitterAndTwisted

What on earth is mostlycheerful on?

carefullycautious

Im afraid with too few council properties left and ASBO being able to evict due to this behaviour it is inevitable that they are going to end up in privately rented.

I have a friend who lived in a terrace of four for many years with no problems untill miss single + partner and 4 feral children moved in and caused absolute mayhem.

My friend moved to a quiet area of town and breathed a sigh of relief. Which unfortunately did not last long as the above family were evicted and now reside in a lovely semi detached on a residential road a stones throw from my friend.

Not sure how long they will last in this property but god help the neighbours.

just saw the above dont underestimate what these people can and will do.

sinbad182

What the f**k is this mostlycheerful character rambling about?!

maria6259

BitterAndTwisted wrote: »

What on earth is mostlycheerful on?

I would hate to see him not cheerful.....