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Am I being pedantic with my loft insulation ?

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  • I agree with the post above
    While I agree with a fair price for a fair job, some people just take the mickey
    No doubt the original poster has way to much time on their hands:T
  • sirmarcus
    sirmarcus Posts: 1,381 Forumite
    Stopping a cheque in these circumstances is utterly wrong. It may also constitute a criminal offence.

    All for liability on their part of miniscule amount.

    I think you have too much time on your hands.

    A criminal offence ? What planet are you from ? I had better keep my eyes open for the police knocking on my door !!

    I am within my consumer rights not to pay for anything until I am completely satisfied that the company has done a fit-for-purpose job.:):)
  • sirmarcus wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Thanks for your responses so far.

    Just to clarify, when I state 'the outer edges in the loft area', I mean that there appears to be a 12 inch gap to the edge of my roof and I can see the old insulation, which is nowhere near the required depth of 270mm, in this 12 inch gap. I agree that I cannot see any old insulation beyond this 12 inch gap, which I assume is classed as the true outer edge.

    I am not an expert in this field and any advise is again welcome.

    If I am being pedantic, I will just concede and apologise to the company.


    Sorry, I think you're being pedantic. £129 won't cover the cost of the materials, the gap left needs to be left for ventilation and if you pack insulation under the walk boards (which I'm assuming you lifted so they could fit it) it wouldn't work because the air pockets in insulation are whay give it the insulating properties.

    Several people seem to have told you the same thing - give the guys a break, they're only trying to do a job on minimum wage and most of the comanies involved are on tiny profit margins. :(
    Target of wind & watertight by Sept 2011 :D
  • Equaliser123
    Equaliser123 Posts: 3,404 Forumite
    sirmarcus wrote: »
    A criminal offence ? What planet are you from ? I had better keep my eyes open for the police knocking on my door !!

    I am within my consumer rights not to pay for anything until I am completely satisfied that the company has done a fit-for-purpose job.:):)

    Google it. Potentially handing over a cheque and stopping it constitutes a criminal offence.

    It also leads to a really easy action on the part of the creditor - it is called an "action on a cheque". There is pretty much no defence.
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    sirmarcus wrote: »
    A criminal offence ? What planet are you from ? I had better keep my eyes open for the police knocking on my door !!
    Yes its fraudulent. Additionally you stand a very good chance of finding yourself in the county court in a civil action. In that case if you cannot prove the supplier is at fault and is not entitled to any of the amount shown on the cheque then you will lose.
    I am within my consumer rights not to pay for anything until I am completely satisfied that the company has done a fit-for-purpose job.:):)
    Yes you are but in handing over the cheque you said you were happy. If it turned out after the evnt that you were not happy then you should call them back to discuss the "faults" you have found and any rectification works. Just stopping the cheque is very bad.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • sirmarcus
    sirmarcus Posts: 1,381 Forumite
    edited 2 September 2010 at 5:31PM
    Hi all,

    Local compnay visited my property today and rectified the faults. They also advised that they would be reprimanding the original fitter; although I advised them that I wan't bothered with that. I have now given them another cheque.

    Thanks for the advise in getting me a successful outcome.
  • sirmarcus wrote: »
    A criminal offence ? What planet are you from ? I had better keep my eyes open for the police knocking on my door !!

    I am within my consumer rights not to pay for anything until I am completely satisfied that the company has done a fit-for-purpose job.:):)

    I think stopping the cheque is a bit excessive, although they did recitfy it.
    I don't take cheques (unless business or an OAP), but take cards (chip and pin). Taking cheques is old school and costs me around an hour to put the thing in the bank - by the time I park, queue and waste time between jobs

    Stoping the cheque (paying nothing ) is technically breach of contract, you should always pay what a job is worth- then you are not leaving yourself open

    I'm glad it all worked out in the end.
    baldly going on...
  • sirmarcus
    sirmarcus Posts: 1,381 Forumite
    I think stopping the cheque is a bit excessive, although they did recitfy it.
    I don't take cheques (unless business or an OAP), but take cards (chip and pin). Taking cheques is old school and costs me around an hour to put the thing in the bank - by the time I park, queue and waste time between jobs

    Stoping the cheque (paying nothing ) is technically breach of contract, you should always pay what a job is worth- then you are not leaving yourself open

    I'm glad it all worked out in the end.

    Appreciate your views and opinions. You also have my sympathies to a certain extent.

    However, the company, which I used; although local to me, does have a fairly wide UK distribution as well, so I am unable to completely agree with your views.

    Anyway I won in the end !!:):):rotfl::rotfl::)
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    You'd have got the same result by telling them you weren't happy and after inspection any reputable company would have taken the action they have taken. Stopping the cheque was still wrong and you could so easily have had the opposite effect to the one that you did. Good job that the company was flexible enough.

    Its rather sad that you see this result as a "win" rather than getting corrective work done on a job poorly completed in the first instance. Business relations should be a partnership not a pitched battle to be won or lost.

    Nevertheless pleased it all worked out all right for you.

    Cheers.
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
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