Bad fridge and sofa in new rented flat

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germanjulian wrote: »

What does the below mean?
“Have the use of all appliances provided in the Property, as laid out in the inventory save those which are noted as not working. However, should any item require repair, or beyond repair, the Landlord does not undertake to pay for any costs of repair or to replace the appliances, except those which the Landlord is required by law to maintain.”
Does that mean he does not have to fix the fridge?

If that term is in your tenancy agreement then sadly yes it does. The LL has no legal obligation to keep the fridge in repair (in fact, they are specifically excluded from the LL's legal obligations). The fridge is on you I'm afraid. You are, however, under no obligation to provide any sort of "upgrade" to the fridge (ie a new one) so you could look at freecycle / local ads for a very cheap second fridge and then get permission from the LL, in writing, to bin the old one.

adouglasmhor

Get a lawyer or shelter or CAB to look at that clause*. It sounds dodgy to me.



*I know your name is Julian and not Clause

pinkteapot

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Get a lawyer or shelter or CAB to look at that clause*. It sounds dodgy to me.



*I know your name is Julian and not Clause

The important thing will be whether the fridge and sofa were actually supplied by the landlord, or whether previous tenants left them and you were welcome to use them.

If supplied by the landlord, that clause seems a bit iffy.

It may just be a badly worded way of stating that the latter is the case. I just moved out of a rented flat and left my washing machine behind (with the agreement of the landlord) as we were getting a new one for our new house. The washing machine is only three years old and works fine. The next tenants will be told they're welcome to use it but it's not supplied by the landlord so as and when it packs up they will need to repair or replace it.

The first place I rented had a fridge and sofa someone had left which were provided on the same basis.

germanjulian

thanks guys.
Lets hope I hear from the Landlord today. One's everything is sorted I will let you know.

Fridge temp is 9C so I suppose if something says "eat within 3 days" and I eat it within 2 I should be fine

edinburgher

Fridge temp is 9C so I suppose if something says "eat within 3 days" and I eat it within 2 I should be fine

The recommended temperatures for the safe storage of food are to do with the prevention of bacteria growth, not the longevity of your food! I'd argue that in the modern world, a working fridge is essential.

spud211

What did you inventory say when you moved in?

That was your chance to point out that the sofa was manky, fridge appeared broken, to take photos as proof etc.

If you missed out on that then I think you are sadly out of luck Best chance would be to speak to your local CAB as mentioned to check out that clause - i suspect its legitimate as it does offer the inventory as a way around it, so imo it would be a reasonable term.

Sucks but that may be the reality

germanjulian

the inventory does say "fridge working; and sofa is in a bad condition" but as the lady nor I sat on it or smelled it or put a thermometer in the fridge to check the temperature it was a bit hard to point these things out on the move in day.

Lets wait and see... obviously the lady dealing with me is out of the office today... again.

germanjulian

Hi,

I think I will make some more progress from now on

Hi Julian,

This is correct Natalia quit working in ***** as of today. I will forward your email to Eddie who arranged the contractor to quote for the fridge.

germanjulian

Hi,

good new a new fridge has been ordered and the sofa they are discussing with the Landlord know to see what they can buy etc.

Finally!

Thanks guys

BitterAndTwisted

Excellent news! Good luck with getting a nice, new replacement sofa