Moral Hazard & Fairness - Housing

amcluesent

Just another example that anyone who has been silly enough to study a real subject, work hard, save etc. has been made a fool of since 1997 and the creation of the Socialist Utopia (Zone Angleterre) within the Socialist Utopia of the EU.

Cleaver

amcluesent wrote: »

Just another example that anyone who has been silly enough to study a real subject, work hard, save etc. has been made a fool of since 1997 and the creation of the Socialist Utopia (Zone Angleterre) within the Socialist Utopia of the EU.

I've done those three things and my life is really quite pleasant. I think it all depends on the way in which you view your life amcluesent.

flashnazia

silvercar wrote: »

Even living on cheap food, my teenage boys eat through £30-40 a week and that is before you add on clothes, shoes, transport, school stuff, stationary, pocket money etc.

My goodness what are they eating? My food bill for me, the OH and 3 year old is £30 per week!

So, if £60 per week is not enough, how do you suppose the 'non-working' community usually manage to feed big strapping dogs too?

LydiaJ

flashnazia - teenage boys eat much much more than most adults (and of course 3 year olds). It's normal.

amcluesent

>I've done those three things and my life is really quite pleasant<

So have I. But I see gypos, chavs, EEs and "seekers" have an equal/better lifestyle after having never lifted a finger, while I'm bled white with taxation. Which makes me rather angry.

Cleaver

amcluesent wrote: »

But I see gypos, chavs, EEs and "seekers" have an equal/better lifestyle after having never lifted a finger, while I'm bled white with taxation. Which makes me rather angry.

I don't see that. So either I see a different society to you, or I'm blissful in ignorance. But whatever the reason, I'm glad I see things in a different light.

What are EEs? I'm presuming with you it's a race, nationality or ethnic group but I'm having trouble working out which.

amcluesent

>What are EEs?<

Eastern Europeans. Who've swamped us, since the elite fools and Socialists expected 25,000 and we've had 2,000,000+ arrive.

Cleaver

amcluesent wrote: »

>What are EEs?<

Eastern Europeans. Who've swamped us, since the Socialists expected 25,000 and we've had 2,000,000+ arrive.

Ahh, of course. I've liked pretty much all the Eastern Europeans I've met. Especially the ones who used to own the shop near us and helped my wife when I was away and the car wouldn't work.

SingleSue

LydiaJ wrote: »

flashnazia - teenage boys eat much much more than most adults (and of course 3 year olds). It's normal.

Blooming eat me out of house and home! I have almost 3 of the beggers (youngest will be a teenager next year).

Eldest is by far the worse one, he needs a huge amount of food just to keep his weight stable, any less and he loses weight (yes his thyroid has been checked - it is possibly related to his EDS), he averages approx 8-10k calories a day, we have still not found the level to make him put weight on, which he desperately needs as he is already underweight.

leveller2911

LydiaJ wrote: »

Although

It's therefore relevant to discuss what the current system provides incentives for, and what its unintended consequences might be.

I think thats a fair point, incentives play a major role.I am self employed and know of 7 people locally who have cut the hours they work each week purely and simply because the increase in WTC they are awarded means they are working less hours for more money so the incentive is not to work as hard..They don't see the moral question they just see the easier life ,which I guess is a natural human instint.

I would also say that the doleite ,chav scum around me all have at least 4 children, some even 5 children are all to thick to see the bigger picture ie: more children = less money per child, they just see their fag,I-phone and plasma tv money.....Most that I see don't actually want the children , they just want them out of their way...

All very,very sad....