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MSE News: National Counties BS revives inflation-beating savings

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"The building society today launched a tax-free savings account which guarantees to beat the rise in the cost of living ..."
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  • Jonbvn
    Jonbvn Posts: 5,562 Forumite
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    This is excellent news. I'm shocked that there are not lots of posts welcoming this account.

    BTW, get in quick. This is likely to be popular.
    In case you hadn't already worked it out - the entire global financial system is predicated on the assumption that you're an idiot:cool:
  • Biggles
    Biggles Posts: 8,209 Forumite
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    Jonbvn wrote: »
    This is excellent news. I'm shocked that there are not lots of posts welcoming this account.

    BTW, get in quick. This is likely to be popular.
    The rate's not bad but being locked in for five years is a big disadvantage compared to ILSCs. Plus, of course, most keen savers will already have a cash ISA for this year. It's not for me.
  • pKaTz
    pKaTz Posts: 256 Forumite
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    Am i right in thinking that with this the inflation level is checked only 2 times.
    Once on 1st October this year. And then at the end of 5 years.
    So if during the 5 years it went up, but settled down and was around the same level as now you not be any better off?
  • Sceptic001
    Sceptic001 Posts: 1,111 Forumite
    edited 17 August 2010 at 1:52PM
    pKaTz wrote: »
    Am i right in thinking that with this the inflation level is checked only 2 times.
    Once on 1st October this year. And then at the end of 5 years.
    So if during the 5 years it went up, but settled down and was around the same level as now you not be any better off?
    Yes, although the 1% is guaranteed even if RPI falls over the 5 years. I am pessimistic about inflation over the next two years but 5 years is a long time to lock in.
  • pKaTz
    pKaTz Posts: 256 Forumite
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    At least with the NS ILC RPI was every year.
  • Jonbvn
    Jonbvn Posts: 5,562 Forumite
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    pKaTz wrote: »
    Am i right in thinking that with this the inflation level is checked only 2 times.
    Once on 1st October this year. And then at the end of 5 years.
    So if during the 5 years it went up, but settled down and was around the same level as now you not be any better off?

    A common misconception. You are not comparing the headline rate of inflation (as a %) now and in 5 years. You must compare the RP index now and in 5 years. Provided inflation is positive (i.e. we don't get deflation) you will always get a return. Plus you have to add in the 1% bonus.
    In case you hadn't already worked it out - the entire global financial system is predicated on the assumption that you're an idiot:cool:
  • lisyloo
    lisyloo Posts: 30,100 Forumite
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    This isn't attractive to me because of the tie-in.
    I don't think it will be that popular, but hey-ho, time will tell if I'm right or not.
    I'd rather take my chance on other rates, thanks.
  • Reaper
    Reaper Posts: 7,356 Forumite
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    I think this is actually different to the NS&I deal isn't it?

    Let's imagine we have 2 years of inflation and 3 years of deflation which cancel each other out.

    If I remember right the (somebody correct me if I am wrong) the NS&I one worked it out annually so those 2 years got their growth + 1% and the deflationary years got 1%.

    With this one you would end up with just the 1% if I have understood it correctly. So the 2 years of growth would not benefit you in this case.
  • smallfry27
    smallfry27 Posts: 110 Forumite
    Yes NS&I added on annually, so you also got the benefit of compound interest.
  • poppy10_2
    poppy10_2 Posts: 6,588 Forumite
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    Yep, the lack of annual calculation and payment of the "interest" makes this deal much poorer than the NS&I index linked certificates.
    poppy10
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