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Named and Shamed! Britain's jobless ghettos...

amcluesent
amcluesent Posts: 9,425 Forumite
edited 15 August 2010 at 4:21PM in Debate House Prices & the Economy
MANY of the UK's major towns and cities have deteriorated into dole blackspots with a QUARTER or more out of work.

Shock new figures reveal jobless ghettoes where unemployment is nearly FOUR TIMES the national average.

The stats lay bare the massive task ministers face in smashing Britain's benefits culture. The latest figures show there are now 5.9 million claiming out-of-work benefits in Britain, many of them living in these urban ghettoes.

They also show how genuine job-hunters are vastly outnumbered by those on long-term sickness handouts in many of these blackspots. In many of these areas, large numbers of unfilled jobs are being snapped up by immigrants.

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FACT - In the time it's taken you to read this, China and India will have produced 9 graduates in science, engineering and electronics.
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    It's almost like a top ten list of Britain's Cheapest Housing.....

    Gee, I wonder if there is a connection?
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    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

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  • amcluesent
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    edited 15 August 2010 at 4:14PM
    Or Britain's most staunch Labour supporters. Surely they didn't vote Clown for the benefits feather-bed?

    NB. 3-bed in Merthyr for £22k - HMO opportunity I'd say...
  • C_Mababejive
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    The NoW is trashy journalism. they front the story with a handy picture but no real terms of reference. This is so that chavs with a low attention span,can grab the headline,store it and regurgitate it. However i can beleive the background story even if they havent quoted a source and some decent data.

    Most of the towns quoted had large manufacturing bases..the powerhouses of British indistry,,before we sold that work abroad to cheap labour economies,threw people out of work and pressed forward with pinstripe Britain..the great financial services economy.

    Well it worked for a while didnt it until the lid blew off and now we are fooked.

    Meanwhile this week we see output figures from Germany almost double those of Broken Britain.

    You see our friends in Germany have a much greater respect for engineering ,manufacturing and innovation.

    They are not a nation of shiny arsed biro suckers like the so called service/financial service industries which we have come to rely on.

    Neither are they a nation obsessed with flogging their tripes out all their lives to pay a mortage on some crummy three bed semi in suburbia.
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • StevieJ
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    Most of the towns quoted had large manufacturing bases..the powerhouses of British indistry,
    ,before we sold that work abroad to cheap labour economies,threw people out of work and pressed forward with pinstripe Britain..the great financial services economy.

    a.

    Interesting then, to see Manchester missing from that list being the major cornerstone of the Industrial revolution.
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  • C_Mababejive
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Interesting then, to see Manchester missing from that list being the major cornerstone of the Industrial revolution.
    Indeed...Manchester and Lancashire were one of the major cradles of the Industrial revolution and in later years and the 20th century,they did have manufacturing bases but looking at many of the towns on the list,they were towns that were into shipping,steel,metal bashing and mining.

    I expect that some of them have call centres and such things now.

    The difficulty is of course that we dont have low skills economies now . Industries which could soak up great volumes of school leavers,give them productive work in low skill perhaps labour intensive work.

    We also dont have the educational system to provide industry with the raw material it needs. Indeed,many of our universities still churn out product that isnt fit for purpose!

    No wonder then that we are being left behind by our euro neighbours.

    Until this country sorts out its educational system,its disciplinary regime,its law and order and its re-establishment of a manufacturing base which values engineering and innovation,we will continue to decline.
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • chucky
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    one if four people unemployed in London doesn't sound right.

    they've probably included house wives and students to get anywhere close to that number.
  • vivatifosi
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    chucky wrote: »
    one if four people unemployed in London doesn't sound right.

    they've probably included house wives and students to get anywhere close to that number.

    In Hackney it was 25% in 1993. Its a long term issue there due to poor skills:

    Local government paper on why:
    http://www.gos.gov.uk/497417/docs/189146/198595/251298/Hackney.pdf

    Independent article from 1993:
    http://www.gos.gov.uk/497417/docs/189146/198595/251298/Hackney.pdf

    It'll be interesting to hear lj's take on what the issues are for Wolverhampton.
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  • "Whole towns and cities have simply been ignored over the last decade under Labour, with the taxpayer having to pick up the tab for the benefits culture.

    That comment almost made me choke on my tea! Those towns and cities are almost invariably places whose economies were decimated under Thatcher. For years, they experienced zero intervention from central Government to encourage any replacement economy. You reap what you sow. It was completely predictable that people would not simply 'get on their bike' and leave their home towns and cities to find work. The result is town after town with no or low-grade/skilled work and failing infrastructure and generations of families who have forgotten what it's like to work in a well-paid, skilled job.
  • chucky
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    In Hackney it was 25% in 1993. Its a long term issue there due to poor skills:

    Local government paper on why:
    http://www.gos.gov.uk/497417/docs/189146/198595/251298/Hackney.pdf

    Independent article from 1993:
    http://www.gos.gov.uk/497417/docs/189146/198595/251298/Hackney.pdf
    Hackney is probably one of the worst to be fair and wouldn't portray London correctly. in theory it's the area with most job opportunities so I can't see the 1 in 4 people being totally accurate.
  • vivatifosi
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    chucky wrote: »
    Hackney is probably one of the worst to be fair and wouldn't portray London correctly. in theory it's the area with most job opportunities so I can't see the 1 in 4 people being totally accurate.

    Looks like they are including IB:

    http://www.cityam.com/news-and-analysis/allister-heath/why-unemployment-remains-so-high
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
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