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Savings Accounts Obsolete-- Now "Losing Accounts"

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  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,261 Forumite
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    If I propertybee within 0.5 miles the most price reductions on any property is 5 and the largest percentage reduction is just over 25%...but of course these are only asking prices....
    I think....
  • michaels wrote: »
    If I propertybee within 0.5 miles the most price reductions on any property is 5 and the largest percentage reduction is just over 25%...but of course these are only asking prices....

    Propertybee should come with a financial health warning for the mentally impaired.

    Asking prices are meaningless.

    House worth 200K, optimistic owner puts it on the market for 275K, to allow for people making "low offers"..... No action so owner reduces to 200K, which is what it should have been priced at to begin with.

    Bear looks at propertybee, sees 75K reduction, and assumes prices are dropping. Comes on MSE and brags about prices falling "round my way".

    Reality of course is that actual sold prices are the same or increasing.

    Everyone else laughs at him.

    Rinse and repeat.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Wookster wrote: »
    Do not wait.

    Go and buy a house now.

    Any house.

    Even in skegness.

    It will go up in value and you'll be rich beyond your wildest dreams.

    Ain't it so hamish?

    Slightly pathetic there, Skegness is has its good points same as everywhere else.

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  • chucknorris
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    edited 14 August 2010 at 5:16AM
    chucky wrote: »
    the low savings rates shouldn't really come as a surprise to anyone

    there have been some opportunities out there to make the most of savings

    I blew my chance when Kaupthing Edge went under, I chickened out and withdrew everything. If I had stayed in I would have been transferred over to ING and had a 7.67% (I think it was that rate) savings account for 3 years. My last 7% account (at Anglo Irish) matures this November. But the best account I had was 10%, it was a regular saver at Halifax International but I was only able to pay 2k a month into it, so only averages 12k to earn the interest. Most of my sayings accounts now are between 4-5%, still I can't complain as I am a net borrower and only paying just over 1% on my mortgages
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  • RenovationMan
    RenovationMan Posts: 4,227 Forumite
    brit1234 wrote: »
    Inflation may be eating away at most peoples savings but some of us are saving for homes. Thus it does not matter as much as houses are deflating which makes up for the lack of interest. :)

    Exactly what I was saying a week or so ago to a depressed tenant on here when he was worried about his deposit being eroded by inflation. With house prices stagnant his house deposit is safe and sound, inflation only erodes money that is going to be spent on inflated items.

    I will put a caveat on that and say that with house prices stagnating and low rates here to stay, I would buy a house as soon as I could secure a reasonable LTV and therefore a reasonable mortgage rate.
  • pardal51
    pardal51 Posts: 427 Forumite
    House worth 200K, optimistic owner puts it on the market for 275K, to allow for people making "low offers"..... No action so owner reduces to 200K, which is what it should have been priced at to begin with.
    This is what I believe most vendors are doing at the moment, and therefore trapping buyers in still paying over the odds.
    Friend of OH was told by EA to price their flat to "test" the market, i.e., overestimate the AP and see if any desperate buyers fall into the trap.
  • chucky
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    Exactly what I was saying a week or so ago to a depressed tenant on here when he was worried about his deposit being eroded by inflation. With house prices stagnant his house deposit is safe and sound, inflation only erodes money that is going to be spent on inflated items.

    I will put a caveat on that and say that with house prices stagnating and low rates here to stay, I would buy a house as soon as I could secure a reasonable LTV and therefore a reasonable mortgage rate.
    to add inflation erodes earnings too which means that by the time you get to save for that reasonable LTV mortgage - those types of deals may not be around or house prices may not be stagnating.

    it's not going to happen tomorrow or even this year but to get a decent deposit together takes a while so people need to do their own maths and what suits them best.
  • michaels
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    edited 14 August 2010 at 11:23AM
    True only asking prices (as I stated) but 8 months ago when prices were booming there were no reductions, a few increases and almost everything was sold. I agree though that strategies may have changed as a result of the boom conditions that applied then but now very little is selling so it is hard to estimate actual 'market' levels.
    Propertybee should come with a financial health warning for the mentally impaired.

    Asking prices are meaningless.

    House worth 200K, optimistic owner puts it on the market for 275K, to allow for people making "low offers"..... No action so owner reduces to 200K, which is what it should have been priced at to begin with.

    Bear looks at propertybee, sees 75K reduction, and assumes prices are dropping. Comes on MSE and brags about prices falling "round my way".

    Reality of course is that actual sold prices are the same or increasing.

    Everyone else laughs at him.

    Rinse and repeat.
    I think....
  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    Propertybee should come with a financial health warning for the mentally impaired.

    Asking prices are meaningless.

    House worth 200K, optimistic owner puts it on the market for 275K, to allow for people making "low offers"..... No action so owner reduces to 200K, which is what it should have been priced at to begin with.

    Bear looks at propertybee, sees 75K reduction, and assumes prices are dropping. Comes on MSE and brags about prices falling "round my way".

    Reality of course is that actual sold prices are the same or increasing.

    Everyone else laughs at him.

    Rinse and repeat.
    Still, chin up,

    These seem familiar phrases. I`m sure I used them earlier in the day.
    DervProf wrote: »
    Rinse and repeat
    DervProf wrote: »
    So chin up

    Who`s a lovely boy then ? Pieces of eight, pieces of eight !


    There you go Hamish, another thread derailed. :j

    Well, not quite. You`ve just said "brags about prices falling" & "Reality of course is that actual sold prices are the same or increasing."

    Are you really saying that although PropertyBee does show some asking prices being lowered, in every case the asking price was inflated in the first place ? And the "sold prices" that you speak of being "the same or increasing", the same or greater than what exactly ?
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  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    edited 14 August 2010 at 10:04AM
    chucky wrote: »
    to add inflation erodes earnings too which means that by the time you get to save for that reasonable LTV mortgage - those types of deals may not be around or house prices may not be stagnating.

    Given the conditions that you describe, I would have thought that house prices would then be falling, which would cancel some or all of the negative effects of inflation. You never know, prices might fall enough to make the wait worthwhile.
    30 Year Challenge : To be 30 years older. Equity : Don't know, don't care much. Savings : That's asking for ridicule.
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