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MMR injections
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Snugglepet20 and leftieM are spot on, MMR is THE safe option. The single jabs are unlicensed and a complete waste of money. The NHS is there to look after the population, not invoke a public health disaster. The "evidence" against MMR amounts to malicious scaremongering and has only served to increase the rates of these diseases (remember they can be killers) at the point where they were nearly eradicated.
Anyone who opts for the single vaccines has more money than sense, not MSE at all.Value-for-money-for-me-puhleeze!
"No man is worth, crawling on the earth"- adapted from Bob Crewe and Bob Gaudio
Hope is not a strategy
...A child is for life, not just 18 years....Don't get me started on the NHS, because you won't win...I love chaz-ing!0 -
My 2 eldest girls got the MMR jab, against my better judgement but there was so much pressure put on me that I gave in. My eldest was quite ill after it and when I had my youngest child I held out and she has never had the MMR and won't be getting it. She will get the Rubella jab very soon. I was told that schools wouldn't allow her in if she didn't have it and also phoned by the receptionist at my GPs who practically called me a bad mother for not getting it done!! My Health Visitor looked perplexed when I firmly said no she wasn't getting it, obviously they are used to people just doing what they are told!! Single vaccine or triple, I don't agree with the MMR.0
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Just to point out my opinion is based on personal experience. We got the MMR injection when I was in grammar school and one of the girls ended up in hospital for weeks as a result of it. Now we were told that was the reason and I have no reason to doubt it was due to drugs or anything else. I went to the hospital to see her and she was a real mess. Could hardly talk, hair matted, catheter and numerous lunbar punctures. She made a full recovery but having seen that and knowing that single jabs are available I'm more inclined to get them rather than the combined. Yes I know there will be 3 jabs and not one but 5 minutes after they're done babies forget all about them! Trust me, having just gotten the Hib & Men C injection given this week my son still hasn't twigged what injections are other than time for snuggles with mummy!
@Angelsmomma - do you mind me asking where you got your injections done?
I got them done at John St in Manchester.( I think they have Clinics in other major cities too) They were really good, explained everything about the vaccine including what was in it and showed the product before they took the wrapper off it. They also asked questions about any allergies and pointed out that there was egg in it in case my son was allergic.
Worth every penny as far as I am concerned especially since my son has since been diagnoised with dyspraxia and skin conditions.
And before anyone jumps on me by that I mean if his skin had flared up at the time I would have wrongly thought it was the vaccine and not the then undiagnoised skin condition.Life is not the way it’s supposed to be. It’s the way it is. The way you cope with it is what makes the difference.0 -
icelandic_queen wrote: »My 2 eldest girls got the MMR jab, against my better judgement but there was so much pressure put on me that I gave in. My eldest was quite ill after it and when I had my youngest child I held out and she has never had the MMR and won't be getting it. She will get the Rubella jab very soon. I was told that schools wouldn't allow her in if she didn't have it and also phoned by the receptionist at my GPs who practically called me a bad mother for not getting it done!! My Health Visitor looked perplexed when I firmly said no she wasn't getting it, obviously they are used to people just doing what they are told!! Single vaccine or triple, I don't agree with the MMR.
Just out of interest, what is it about MMR that you specifically don't agree with? Is it due to your eldest's reaction to it? Did you take up all the other standard immunisations?
My daughter was 'off colour' for weeks after having her MMR, but I was willing to accept this as being the lesser of two evils, in that measles etc are nasty illnesses, and if there is any way to avoid them then I'm all for it. Having said that, my heart was in my mouth when she had all her immunisations, as I was terrified of her having a bad reaction to them. But all in all, I calculated that there was a miniscule chance of her having a bad reaction to the injection, whereas if she caught any of the illnesses I couldn't live with myself for not having tried to prevent them. But then, I couldn't have lived with myself if she had reacted badly to the immunisation. Thats the guilt of being a modern mother, I suppose. Generations ago we wouldn't have had to make this decision, but then generations ago we would have been at constant risk of losing a child to illness......0 -
duffdad gives good advice.
One thing to bear in mind is that measles and rubella can lead to serious disablity or death. Vaccination massively reduces the chances of this happening. I would suggest reading up on official information on this in either "The Green Book" from the Department of Health or the NHS info site.
Not going to tell you what is right for your own child but I will say that I have had my MMR and all of my kids will be getting it when they come along!Life in this world is, as it were, a sojourn in a cave. What can we know of reality? For all we can see of the true nature of existence is, shall we say, no more than bewildering and amusing shadows cast upon the inner wall of the cave by the unseen blinding light of absolute truth, from which we may or may not deduce some glimmer of veracity, and we as troglodyte seekers of wisdom can only lift our voices to the unseen and say humbly "Go on, do deformed rabbit again.....it's my favourite". © Terry Pratchett in "Small Gods"
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There is, I'm afraid, no zero risk option. I remember, as an undergraduate, my clinical microbiology lecturer coming in and reporting to us that his daughter had been given a (pre MMR) measles jab and been given the real thing. He said at least it should give her really good immunity in the future!
The reality is, though, that this risk of having the MMR is much much lower than the risk of not having it.
We weighed up the risk and in the end our children got their immunity from MMR.
I got it spending a summer holiday with measles, an Easter holiday with mumps and rubella over a half term. (For those who think at least I didn't suffer at Christmas - that was chicken pox!)0 -
I'm actually just acting on my mother's instinct!! I know what you mean Snozzle, you're dammed if you do and you're dammed if you don't!! My eldest girl recently got the vaccine for cervical cancer and there was the option to have a booster for the MMR. I refused to agree to this. The school nurse berated my daughter for not getting the MMR booster but the nurse giving her the jab for the cervical cancer told her she wasn't the only one not getting it. I did phone up and complain about the school nurse as my daughter said she was nearly hysterical and I'm not going to let anyone undermine my decision and I wasn't the only one!! Is it true that GPs get paid and incentive to encourage parents to take the MMR jab?0
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snugglepet20 wrote: »http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/mmr-vaccines-are-three-jabs-really-better-than-one-702799.html
This echos the lines of what I originally read, it was a while ago now. Basically there is less research as to the safety and efficiency of single vaccines plus you are subjecting your child to 3 painful injections instead of 1. Also on nhs.uk "Currently, there are no licensed single vaccines in the UK for either measles or mumps". Unlicensed medication for a child?
Google MMR safety and you will find endless research backing it's safety and tons of adverts for greedy doctors trying to cash in on parents paranoia!
oh dear............this link is NINE years old
wakefields article in the lancet was printed in 1998, is was discredited, the paper even accepted the article as false
in all the 12 years that have passed sine the lancet printed wakefields carp hundreds of other studies have been conducted, not one of them has found any evidence to back up his 'theory'0 -
icelandic_queen wrote: »Is it true that GPs get paid and incentive to encourage parents to take the MMR jab?
It certainly used to be the case that GPs got a bonus for over x% take up of vaccines (somewhere around 80-90% IIRC) so I would say, Yes.
My Ds2 caught measles at 8 months old, earlier than he would have been offered the MMR, so it wouldn't have helped him anyway (he is absolutely fine and had no after effects from the measles btw)
It's only a game
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masterlumps wrote: »oh dear............this link is NINE years old
wakefields article in the lancet was printed in 1998, is was discredited, the paper even accepted the article as false
in all the 12 years that have passed sine the lancet printed wakefields carp hundreds of other studies have been conducted, not one of them has found any evidence to back up his 'theory'
and yet this guy is stil labelled as a 'hero' by many."An arrogant and self-righteous Guardian reading tvv@t".
!!!!!! is all that about?0
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