CSA forms when Director of business?

simpywimpy

I should also add that the form says: Child maint normally starts from the date we tell a parent about the maintenance application.

If this is the case, how does this then accrue arrears?

The csa website says he pays £5 based on £100 a week income or if they incude tax credits in that, it will be £12

Loopy_Girl

Well he has been told so his liability starts from that date...but they can then take ages to sort it out and in all honesty, this is going to be a head scratcher for them so by the time they have sorted it out, time has passed and monies are due.

Why are the CSA getting involved if there has been a seemingly working private arrangement in place?

simpywimpy

No idea Loopy. She did say today that she would continue with the current arrangement of £40 pw and cancel the forms but I'm not sure if she can actually do that and even so, considering the amount he should be paying is considerably lower, I think he should continue with the forms and put money in the bank for the child quietly.

He has always paid every single week and apart from when she refuses access, always has him when he's not at work.

We have also made an appointment with a solicitor, mainly because we were expecting one from her but got csa forms instead but we will keep the appointment just to get a clear idea of where he stands.

alwayspuzzled

Personally I would ignore the "I'll cancel the csa" until you get something in writing from them to confirm this.
My OH made the mistake of believing this when in fact far from cancelling their involvement she had put in for an appeal on lifestyle inconsistant, undeclared assets etc. It appears the PWC can claim what she likes however outlandish and its down the the NRP to disprove it. They say they will take into account the £300 he paid by private agreement but despite him sending bank statements and the fact shes using it as proof that he must have a higher income in the appeal papers there is still no reduction in their stated arrears.

speedster

simpywimpy wrote: »

It does actually have a form in it

II have recently been informed that you may be the director or shareholder of at least one company. Due to the complex variations of how directors are paid, I need to view a number of docs in order to establish your full income.

The questions are:
Confirm you are the sole director (which he isnt, there are 2)
Are you the director of any other companies (no, just his one)
For each company state salary, dividends, bonuses and commisions (he only takes a small wage)
Please supply full accounts for each company to incl profit & loss, balance sheets, notes and directors reports.
If there is a directors loan account in operation please suply a copy
Supply a copy of Directors P11 D
Send self assessment tax returns for 2009 & 2010 (we have only been asked to do one this time 2010)

Surely he would need the other directors permission to supply all these business docs?

wrong, wrong and wrong.

just send off p60 details and tell them to "whistle dixie" for the rest.

inform them that they are not entitled to ANY company accounts and that the other director refuses to hand over their accounts to them. end of. a letter from the other director confirming this wouldn't hurt.

if they start threatening, advise them to look up a bit of corporate law.

Loopy_Girl

alwayspuzzled wrote: »

Personally I would ignore the "I'll cancel the csa" until you get something in writing from them to confirm this.
My OH made the mistake of believing this when in fact far from cancelling their involvement she had put in for an appeal on lifestyle inconsistant, undeclared assets etc. It appears the PWC can claim what she likes however outlandish and its down the the NRP to disprove it. They say they will take into account the £300 he paid by private agreement but despite him sending bank statements and the fact shes using it as proof that he must have a higher income in the appeal papers there is still no reduction in their stated arrears.

Agreed.

The PWC is able to cancel (or 'close') a claim but I wouldn't do anything until your son has a letter with clear confirmation that the case is closed.


I see what you are saying about putting surplus in a bank account but to be honest the CSA are a nightmare waiting to happen. There are many differing views, chips on shoulders and down right paranoia on here but I'm pretty confident in saying that we would all agree that a private arrangement is better than CSA.

How about your son advises her of the CSA figure? Then they could maybe come to an arrangement (less than he is paying now) and if he wants he can open a bank account for the wee man.

To get a £40pw payment from a NRP who earns £150 is a huge huge amount and I suspect why she has opened and then swiftly said she is going to close the case. She should have left well alone;)

simpywimpy

Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to reply. I was frantic when this arrived this morning even though its not technically mine lol.

I will send only the P60 Speedster and see where we go from there.

Loopy I think his partner is likely to start throwing tantrums again and denying access if he tries to alter the amount he is paying her but we will try anyway and still keep the solicitor appt for friday too.

CSA_Help

speedster wrote: »

wrong, wrong and wrong.

just send off p60 details and tell them to "whistle dixie" for the rest.

inform them that they are not entitled to ANY company accounts and that the other director refuses to hand over their accounts to them. end of. a letter from the other director confirming this wouldn't hurt.

if they start threatening, advise them to look up a bit of corporate law.

Speedster
Still under tribunal just now. CSA had got companies house details back in 2003 but didn't get accounts (when i supplied them in Jan 2010). Surely they can go to CH at anytime

simpywimpy

The accounts are in the public domain and my son's shows a loss.

CSA_Help

simpywimpy wrote: »

The accounts are in the public domain and my son's shows a loss.

Good for a CSA perspective but not for your sons companies business. Hope she is not trying to use the child as a pawn and things get resolved asap.