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is social housing subsidised?

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  • ILW wrote: »
    It appears that much social housing goes way beyond minimum expectations.

    Then it could be that those expectations are too low.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Then it could be that those expectations are too low.

    I would suggest it is easy to have high expectations when it is others that have to pay for them.
  • ILW wrote: »
    I would suggest it is easy to have high expectations when it is others that have to pay for them.

    But I thought you said.....
    ILW wrote: »
    It appears that much social housing goes way beyond minimum expectations.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    I would have thought the two statements quoted compliment each other. ie It is very easy to expect a new kithen every five years if others are paying for it and you have to make no contribution. I cannot see why a tenant with a lifetime tenancy should not pay for their own refurbishments.
  • ILW wrote: »
    I would have thought the two statements quoted compliment each other. ie It is very easy to expect a new kithen every five years if others are paying for it and you have to make no contribution. I cannot see why a tenant with a lifetime tenancy should not pay for their own refurbishments.

    If you are saying that there is an expectation of a new kitchen every 5 years and that those expectations are exceeded, how frequently do you think social housing tenants have their kitchens replaced?
  • FOURCANDLES_2
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    edited 10 August 2010 at 5:15PM
    ILW wrote: »
    I would have thought the two statements quoted compliment each other. ie It is very easy to expect a new kithen every five years if others are paying for it and you have to make no contribution. I cannot see why a tenant with a lifetime tenancy should not pay for their own refurbishments.

    Most HA tenants do pay and fit their own kitchens, bathrooms as I have done because they have secure tenure. I have lived in mine for 7 Years no hint off the HA of a new kitchen/bathroom now or in the near future think they were renewed back in the 80's. When some HA properties are relet they do sometimes take the chance to do a few updates, but i think all this a new kitchen every 5 years is just the talk of silly people who make it up as they go along.As for private tenants they wouldn't need to ask for new ones would they ? as the landlord gives them up to date furnishings such as kitchens and bathrooms or he does not get it rented.
  • tomstickland
    tomstickland Posts: 19,538 Forumite
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    My opinion hasn't changed.
    Section 106 demands mean that a developer has to build social housing to get planning permission. This is a cost that they have to bare, and they will try to up the prices on the private stuff or cut costs somewhere to cover it.

    Subsidising the rents and costs with a cut off then distorts the market.
    Happy chappy
  • My opinion hasn't changed.
    Section 106 demands mean that a developer has to build social housing to get planning permission. This is a cost that they have to bare, and they will try to up the prices on the private stuff or cut costs somewhere to cover it.

    Subsidising the rents and costs with a cut off then distorts the market.

    A very simplistic view, in my opinion.
  • PasturesNew
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    Svenena wrote: »
    Surely this means you would qualify for LHA, and therefore would only be have to find from your wages an amount similar to the price of social housing? When I was on a low income, LHA contributed to my rent and I only paid about half of it from my wages.

    Also, as LHA is set at the median of available properties, exactly half of all available properties within an LHA band should be below it's value.
    No. My situation is complex ... and sometimes I post generically, not of my actual situation as such.

    I have a low wage, well it seems better this month, but because of my savings I don't qualify for top ups.

    Exactly half of all available properties? Or half of all properties (including those cheaper ones people are holding onto)? I wonder how they actually get their figures... as there's no landlords register. Although my LHA area probably covers an area of 30 miles' radius ... and the cheaper ones are probably 20-30 miles away, not much help.
  • tomstickland
    tomstickland Posts: 19,538 Forumite
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    A very simplistic view, in my opinion.
    So are your claims that it's all paid for "out of profits" and that "they should be bringing the standards up in the private sector."
    Happy chappy
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