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plant id please
Got both of these in the garden, bees love them, the leaves on both plants are very similar and the flowers are spiky, would love to know what they are if anyone could help? TIA 

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i think the first one is an allium
http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=583&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=allium&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=0 -
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Echinops and Acanthus, both great for wildlife.0 -
Wow that was quick, thank you very much.Sometimes not moving backwards is as much an achievement as moving forwards is on other times. (originally posted by kidcat)
It's only a bargain if you were going to buy it anyway!0
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