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BBC licence fee should be scrapped, says thinktank - The Guardian

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  • lucylucky
    lucylucky Posts: 4,908 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    You mean freeloading icon7.gif

    Hardly freeloading.

    The BBC put it out in the market place for free and encourage people to use it.

    No need for a licence to use it (unless your watching it for live programmes....I know)

    I can see the BBC regretting the day they ever offered this service.
  • lucylucky
    lucylucky Posts: 4,908 Forumite
    tomterm8 wrote: »
    Hm, that's interesting, I was under an impression you needed to buy a black & white tv license if you wanted Radio. Must have changed at some point.



    Not at all, StevieJ. As you very well know, the TV license is a tax, it is not a payment for services rendered. People can use iplayer, entirely legally and honestly, without owning a TV license. That is not 'freeloading', it is how the system is set up.

    1971, so most people might have noticed by now;)
  • lucylucky
    lucylucky Posts: 4,908 Forumite
    wymondham wrote: »
    No, I don't agree with this. I don't pay for ITV, it funds itself through advertising and I have a choice over paying for any advertised product, which I don't with the license fee.


    The point being made was that ITV is not free.

    Which it is clearly not.
  • MiserlyMartin
    MiserlyMartin Posts: 2,284 Forumite
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    bristol_pilot wrote: »
    It amazes me how people think they are watching the commercial channels for free (ITV1 etc). These channels are funded by advertising, the cost of which is added to the price of goods and services. So we pay through the nose for ITV1 etc everytime we buy something whether we watch those channels or not, which is just the same as many of the arguments on this thread opposing the BBC licence fee on a similar basis. The only truly fair way would be pay-per view for each programme, but I guess most people would get through £145-worth pretty early in the year.

    So are you saying that if the licence fee is scrapped those advertising spend budgets will increase? Companies will continue to advertise and market regardless of if the BBCs channels become subscription or advertising funded or not. If it were not TV it would be radio, leaflets and newspapers etc. The point is, you do not have to buy certain things anyway and the price of goods eg food will not change just because you have saved £145.50 a year.
  • MiserlyMartin
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    lucylucky wrote: »
    The point being made was that ITV is not free.

    Which it is clearly not.

    It clearly is free.
  • lucylucky
    lucylucky Posts: 4,908 Forumite
    MiserlyMartin wrote: »
    It clearly is free.


    Oh dear. Do you really think so?

    My word how wonderfully naive.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    What was that saying about free lunch icon7.gif
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Here is a good one icon7.gif

    Would you pay more for your tv license to help fund ITV



    http://forums.itv.com/thread/810887.aspx
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • RJP33
    RJP33 Posts: 339 Forumite
    Doesn't ITV get a small % of the license fee anyway?

    I'm amazed by the number of people who'd gladly scrap one of our best cultural institutions so that we can all watch more adverts on low quality programmes.
  • tincans
    tincans Posts: 124 Forumite
    RJP33 wrote: »
    Doesn't ITV get a small % of the license fee anyway?

    I'm amazed by the number of people who'd gladly scrap one of our best cultural institutions so that we can all watch more adverts on low quality programmes.

    It's that heady mix of looney libertarians and Daily Mail readers who think the BBC is full of liberals, leftists, feminists and immigrants.
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