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Vacant Possession-NOT!!!!!

Good afternoon: We completed on a property in July- the vendor left the 2 garden sheds full of rubbish as well as various bits of detritus spread throughout the garden. We informed our solicitor on the day of completion...he informed the vendor's brief.... response somewhere along the lines ' we left useful items...if they don't want it they can dispose of it in their skips' (Skips???). We have left everything in situ and photographed the lot ( treasures include various banned chemicals, lead based paints, broken lawn chairs, lead pipe, soiled clothing...you get the idea). I have looked into using moneyclaimsonline...has anyone used this service for recovering a debt in this type of situation? I have looked at other threads on MSE which detail success for recouping penalty charges and recommendations on how to deal with this situation.
The bottom line is...someone's 'treasure' is now our trash. Our options are:

1. Shift it ourselves and bill them my partner's daily rate (self employed plumbing and gas engineer) plus mileage
2. Hire skip, fill and bill them for labour and skip

**Letting the whole thing drop is not an option**
Then send bill to vendor, give appropriate amount of time and if money has not crossed our palms then file a claim online.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.
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  • lynzpower
    lynzpower Posts: 25,311 Forumite
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    I recommend that you gain 3 quotes on hiring a skip and worker to do the neccesary. Quotes should be on headed paper with company contact details on. this was what i was told when approaching small claims - the claimant should have 3 quotes as above, otherwise it wont stand up.

    take the cheapest & pay for it,

    have the work done

    then take to small claims court to get the money back off them
    if they havent paid up before hand :)
    :beer: Well aint funny how its the little things in life that mean the most? Not where you live, the car you drive or the price tag on your clothes.
    Theres no dollar sign on piece of mind
    This Ive come to know...
    So if you agree have a drink with me, raise your glasses for a toast :beer:
  • C_Ronaldo
    C_Ronaldo Posts: 4,732 Forumite
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    thats just disgusting what some people do
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  • bap98189
    bap98189 Posts: 3,801 Forumite
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    If there are harzadous chemicals or lead-based paints, you cannot just dispose of them in a skip or your local dump. It depends on the nature of the chemicals, but they may well be classed as hazardous chemicals and should be disposed of by a reputable waste disposal company.
  • I hear you, my vendor left a load of rubbish at the borrom of our garden, old guttering, bricks, an old bin, broken vases, sheets of mdf, an old aeriel, even the garage's old roof which was asbestos!

    On day 1 I rang up the EA and they contacted the seller on my behalf. The seller denied leaving anything behind and when I spoke to my solicitor to ge tthe ball rolling, she said that if the seller denied leaving stuff behind it was my owrd against theirs and there was nothing I could do. I think that my solicitor didn't care honestly. I was furious! I have since thrown the stuff away bit by bit, a pain in the backside. Good luck!
  • robwend
    robwend Posts: 2,919 Forumite
    our hoiuse was left near fully furnished when we moved in and a green gouse so fall we had trouble opening it, we screamed down the phone at sols and EA, BUT FELL ON DEATH EARS, SO TO BE HONEST ID GET MAD THEN JUST GET RID, ITS TOO MUCH HASSLE MONEY AND BOTHER TO SEEK A CLAIM, YOURL LOOSE OUT IN THE END,ps sorry about caps!! lol dunno what happend there lol
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  • nearlyrich
    nearlyrich Posts: 13,698 Forumite
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    I'll have a pint of whatever Robwend is on tonight;) .....
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  • Jay-Jay_4
    Jay-Jay_4 Posts: 7,351 Forumite
    I'd find out where they moved to, borrow a van, take the stuff and dump it in their garden and deny any knowledge of it.

    ... but then I'm hormonal :cool:
    Just run, run and keep on running!

  • thelawnet
    thelawnet Posts: 2,584 Forumite
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    robwend wrote:
    our hoiuse was left near fully furnished when we moved in and a green gouse so fall we had trouble opening it, we screamed down the phone at sols and EA, BUT FELL ON DEATH EARS, SO TO BE HONEST ID GET MAD THEN JUST GET RID, ITS TOO MUCH HASSLE MONEY AND BOTHER TO SEEK A CLAIM, YOURL LOOSE OUT IN THE END,ps sorry about caps!! lol dunno what happend there lol

    eh, how do you work that out? It takes about 15 minutes to do a money claim online, costs only a few quid (£30 up to about £100 depending on how much you're claiming), and once they get the summons, they'll probably pay up straight away. Honestly, it's dead easy, and very effective. Of course you send them a nice formal letter saying you'll sue them before you actually do, making it clear there's a deadline by which to pay.

    Get the quotes for the professionals, send the letter, give them 14 days to pay, and then SUE.
  • Good morning: Thanks for the advice and support all. As we know where the vendor lives we had thought about sifting the rubbish into her garden but it is a bit of a journey, it would be a very rank load and we'd probably end up on the wrong side of the law (but it would be very satisfying!). We'll arrange for the 3 quotes, post letter to vendor by recorded delivery, give 10 working days for response, then file claim online if she doesn't cough up (it was an estate sale so she can't claim poverty).

    I'll keep you posted.

    Thanks.
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  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,655 Ambassador
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    We had the same, though maybe not quite as much stuff.

    We have no forwarding address for our seller's and we understand that they have run out of money and their business has gone into liquidation.

    We were told there is no point taking them to court.

    I have freecycled a lot of stuff, including empty gas canisters, half built BBQs. It is actually better to let other people make use of their left overs than go through the hassle of taking them to court.
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